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[Darkwood]

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.



I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. mg_smile:

 

[nicebutdim]

Its amazong how much of this rubber cable I still come across that is still in service , its fine until you touch it then it just crumbles in your fingers.

Run from the board was fine and perfectly supple and I didn't expect it to be so bad at the socket. I've seen it crumble before, but this stuff was as hard and brittle as plastic where it had fallen apart.

 

[7029 dave]

Run from the board was fine and perfectly supple and I didn't expect it to be so bad at the socket. I've seen it crumble before, but this stuff was as hard and brittle as plastic where it had fallen apart.

In my experience with VIR it aways crumbles at the end where accessories are connected to it, heat does not help, but the material will just degrade naturally over decades of time.

 

[Dustydazzler]

In my experience with VIR it aways crumbles at the end where accessories are connected to it, heat does not help, but the material will just degrade naturally over decades of time.

I am way to young to have installed rubber twin cable , what sort of age are we looking at now. some of this cable must be pushing 80 - 90 years old and still in service in thousands of homes

 

[7029 dave]

I am way to young to have installed rubber twin cable , what sort of age are we looking at now. some of this cable must be pushing 80 - 90 years old and still in service in thousands of homes

VIR singles were used in domestic homes 1910 to the 1950,s possibly 113 years if still in service

 

[nicebutdim]

They reckoned that house was originally wired in the 50s. Probably about the same age as any I've seen - not sure that many houses around here had electricity before then.

 

[nicebutdim]

VIR singles were used in domestic homes 1910 to the 1950,s 113 years if still in service

That socket was wired in flat 2 core cable, although lighting to room below is still insulated & sheathed rubber singles.

 

[7029 dave]

That socket was wired in flat 2 core cable, although lighting to room below is still insulated & sheathed rubber singles.

Yeah saw that, was dating the VIR singles because I know it was used in the early 1900s, dont think the flat twin was that early not sure. Defiantly used in the 50s as you know I would guess 1930 only because have rewired houses of that era with that type of cable.

 

[LeeH]

How not to make off CY off.

 

[mainline]

How not to make off CY off.View attachment 109836

Better not to use it in the beginning

 

[LeeH]

Better not to use it in the beginning

What would you use?

 

[James]

What would you use?

If it is not inverter driven than CY or it’s equivalent polyurethane coated version.
for a stationary motor, singles in conduit would be fine (tri rated)

edit, I did not mean CY, I meant YY. Oops, CY is screened similar to Sy and not required unless there is an emc issue.

 

[LeeH]

If it is not inverter driven than CY or it’s equivalent polyurethane coated version.
for a stationary motor, singles in conduit would be fine (tri rated)

edit, I did not mean CY, I meant YY. Oops, CY is screened similar to Sy and not required unless there is an emc issue.

That’s my point. You did not know the application so unsure why you stated it was not fit for purpose.

 

[mainline]

What would you use?

One that is recognised by British standards

SY, CY and YY cables are not manufactured to a specific British, European or international standard so in most cases it is not possible to demonstrate the performance safety standards required to satisfy the Wiring Regulations.

 

[Dustydazzler]

I would say 90% of times I have come across braided style cables they have not been installed using the correct glands.
Near every time they have been installed like the picture using a stuffing galnd Or no gland at all

 

[Mike Johnson]

European or international standard so in most cases it is not possible to demonstrate the performance safety standards required to satisfy the Wiring Regulations.

What wiring Regulations?