Unfortunately pirate they arent ****ty and pointless. One thing you will come to learn either be it the fast hard way or the slow and unpleasent way after a few argumentatvie and very defensive posts, that this forums biggest contributors of information, solutions and advice are veteran sparks who have done this job since they carved the wheel.
Those under experianced but capable people such as you and i rely upon these dinosaurs (
) to help us out, so you need to do your best to at least show the most basic of knowledge to look like a total lemon, because as all they then see, is someone attempting to wire in a DOL that will be no doubt operated by some potential numptys, that YOU are responsible for, but Engineer is probably just getting mental images of you wearing a pirate hat, holding your screw driver backwards trying to tuck the CPC into L1.
To get a good head start on your thread, just read a bit of back ground like suggested and come forward with an educated response. Not for one second having a preach here at all buddy im in the same boat, learning every day and making lots of mistakes as i go because thats how we learn, problem is, in this industry you dont just get wet like some plumber, or cut a joint wrong, you might end up killing yourself or someone else, and thats something taken very seriously by guys who work in this business.
Take the constructive criticism with a pinch of salt, and instead of getting arsey with the old gits, fight back with a sensible and well read answer. or taking a photo copy of your ball bag and post it on their visitors page.....only kidding....no one does that.....