Domestic Installer

[Pete999]

I have my flak jacket, Kevlar hat on so fire away, as most of you old timers are aware, I'm an old timer also, maybe it's my age, but I'm confused.com.
The confusion arises over the title of this post, and probably I ought to know the answer, but would be grateful if someone could clear up my conundrum? I hear folks say"there is no such thing as a domestic Installer" "your either an Electrician or you aren't" so please put me at ease, is there such a being as a Domestic Installer? I think not but please clarify. Sorry for the politeness of my post, it's my working for the government that does it.:mickey::elvis::seeya::grinningelf:

 

[Pete999]

Here's a story, today I had EDF in to repair my C/H I have a contract with them, OK. Now the guy turns, nice bloke gas fitter by profession, chatting to him about Part Pee 9 I haven't told him I'm an old time sparks, " oh that he said, yes I'm part Peed but I can't touch anything outside the boiler, not anything past the fcu, not his fault, as I said nice bloke, WTF is that all about, I'll tell you Arse covering, that's what it's about, Part Pee not worth the paper it's written on.

 

[7029 dave]

I agree with you MDJ but unfortunately Joe Public knows the term DI ( might not understand it - bit sure I do ) and building control only accepts it ,my apprenticeship and Jib approved card means very little in getting work for yourself
By being a DI I'm bundled with the 5 week wonders until I get approved and go back the commercial world

I am out of contracting, but am pretty sure you don't need to sign up to the scams if you are doing industrial or commercial jobs (or even domestic), ask some of the guys on here they will put you wright.

 

[bigash]

For some, Di is the first rung on the ladder and they go and work for others learning our trade, for others it's a scam route. For me it was the first rung and have moved on to bigger things now. I'm 17th edition qualified and always aspire to be better.

 

[Engineer54]

For some, Di is the first rung on the ladder and they go and work for others learning our trade, for others it's a scam route. For me it was the first rung and have moved on to bigger things now. I'm 17th edition qualified and always aspire to be better.

If that's the only qualification you hold you're still on the first run, as you put it!!

So you've moved on to bigger things have you, so what makes you think you are remotely competent to move on to bigger things then??

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I have my flak jacket, Kevlar hat on so fire away, as most of you old timers are aware, I'm an old timer also, maybe it's my age, but I'm confused.com.
The confusion arises over the title of this post, and probably I ought to know the answer, but would be grateful if someone could clear up my conundrum? I hear folks say"there is no such thing as a domestic Installer" "your either an Electrician or you aren't" so please put me at ease, is there such a being as a Domestic Installer? I think not but please clarify. Sorry for the politeness of my post, it's my working for the government that does it.:mickey::elvis::seeya::grinningelf:

well theres no confusion from me as far as the title is concerned:

THERES NO SUCH THING AS A CHUFFIN `DOMESTIC INSTALLER`......thats it!!

its an out n out lie manufactured, spun out and sold to an unsuspecting audience by scams hell bent on taking cash for fake titles...

so called `domestic installers` are nowt but half way house, half arsed, cowboy wannabees that are nowt but a danger to themselves....and others...

the amout of times that we have had to go round correcting shoddy, incompetent and downrite dangerous `work` carried out by these charlatans....

 

[Meggerman]

If that's the only qualification you hold you're still on the first run, as you put it!!

So you've moved on to bigger things have you, so what makes you think you are remotely competent to move on to bigger things then??

Read his profile ignoramus. He is qualified.

 

[Engineer54]

Read his profile ignoramus. He is qualified.

Is he?? ....Maybe to YOU he is!!

 

[Meggerman]

Is he?? ....Maybe to YOU he is!!

The JIB would grade him "Electrician" with an NVQ3, so it would not be just me. I believe it may just be YOU!!

 

[Engineer54]

The JIB would grade him "Electrician" with an NVQ3, so it would not be just me. I believe it may just be YOU!!

Think you need a just a little more than just an Add-on qualification to get a JIB ELECTRICIANS card thankfully!!!!

 

[Pete999]

well theres no confusion from me as far as the title is concerned:

THERES NO SUCH THING AS A CHUFFIN `DOMESTIC INSTALLER`......thats it!!

its an out n out lie manufactured, spun out and sold to an unsuspecting audience by scams hell bent on taking cash for fake titles...

so called `domestic installers` are nowt but half way house, half arsed, cowboy wannabees that are nowt but a danger to themselves....and others...

the amout of times that we have had to go round correcting shoddy, incompetent and downrite dangerous `work` carried out by these charlatans....

Why thanks for that Glen, I thought when I originally posted that Old Glen would have the answer in his own inimitable way, I agree with you whole wholeheartedly mate, but couldn't quite find the words.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Why thanks for that Glen, I thought when I originally posted that Old Glen would have the answer in his own inimitable way, I agree with you whole wholeheartedly mate, but couldn't quite find the words.

oh its allrite.

consider it part of the service.

 

[bigash]

I'm the first toasty I don't know everything, I learn as well as the rest of us.

We all started somewhere did we not?

I may have a Nvq which some would say technically qualify me as an electrician, but I do not state I see myself as that, bottom line you started somewhere, what's wrong with me doing the same?

I agree these short courses are ridiculous but I also recognise that they are there as an introduction to the industry, I do not think they should allow someone to carry out work without being supervised, but that's my opinion.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I'm the first toasty I don't know everything, I learn as well as the rest of us.

We all started somewhere did we not?

I may have a Nvq which some would say technically qualify me as an electrician, but I do not state I see myself as that, bottom line you started somewhere, what's wrong with me doing the same?

I agree these short courses are ridiculous but I also recognise that they are there as an introduction to the industry, I do not think they should allow someone to carry out work without being supervised, but that's my opinion.

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`short courses` are a load of cac...

they neither offer proper training..nor in any way shape or form whatsoever prepare those that take them for industry.

in effect they are a con...the adverts for these shams make allsorts of extravegent claims..about how you can earn 55-70,000 a year...or tosh to that effect...

i dont know how many more times it needs to be said but:

YOU CANNOT BECOME AN ELECTRICIAN IN 5 WEEKS!!!

IF I HAD MY WAY ALL THESE SHORT COURSES WOULD BE SHUT DOWN....END OF!!

can we please, please get our industry back....

 

[bigash]

I agree totally. I train hard and am still training in effect, I don't agree with short courses allowing people to practice but I feel that people need some training to become interested in our industry.

 

[R G]

They did exactly the same with driving instructor courses , promise everything and then nothing , its all just a money making scam ,,,