Domestic PIR Quote

[electromonkey]

Afternoon Ladies and Gents (and ladyboys if there are any on here).

I missed out on getting the nod to carry out 30 odd PIR's for some rich fella who's got a load of properties down here in sunny South Wales.

I quoted £30 (I normally charge about £90) per PIR and said I would carry out a complete inspection of all accessible fixtures and fittings for each property. I lost out to a bloke who will do them for £12 each (I don't know how much detail he would go in to).

I tend to find that when I carry out a PIR on a domestic, that I tend to get the improvements work, so I suppose my question(s) is, is it worth carrying out domestic PIR's free of charge? Is there anyone who has tried it and how did it work out for them?

Your thoughts are always appreciated.

 

[Des 56]

They dont realise how many students houses there are down just one road.
Bottom line is, you do them for free your going to have the Part Pee taken mate.
i know you can get wasted in the club for £20 still in wales!
Your selling yourself short BUTT.

You are too right with that
There sure are lot of wasters in the club where i go

 

[IQ Electrical]

I hear what you're saying Mike2790 about underselling a service. Maybe I'm really jammy but whenever I do a PIR I almost always get at least a couple hundred quids work out of it. It's dog eat dog out there at the moment. You come on here during the day and you see there are plenty of sparks sat at home at the moment with little work to be getting on with.

Or accessing the forum on their mobiles!

It is tough but schemes/deals like this just make it tougher on everyone apart from the client.

 

[electromonkey]

I should make it clear that I'm thinking of offering this service as a short term one off in an attempt to catch the student houses.

 

[Octopus]

Why? I need more detail here gents. I can understand if I said I was offering re wires for £1K.

So you're telling me you can do a PIR for £30.00 ?????????????

Lets say there are 4 circuits - so that's £7.50 per circuit

The OP may have been better off by offering a discount on any remedial work highlighted by the PIR...

 

[mike2790]

I hear what you're saying Mike2790 about underselling a service. Maybe I'm really jammy but whenever I do a PIR I almost always get at least a couple hundred quids work out of it. It's dog eat dog out there at the moment. You come on here during the day and you see there are plenty of sparks sat at home at the moment with little work to be getting on with.

it wasnt meant as a personal jab at you mate, i just think its majorly crap that genuine sparks have to keep lowering prices to get work. i understand what your saying about the hard times we are in but i'd hate for one of us to enter into an agreement with somebody to do a pile of PIR's, then get shunted because the customer 'knows a guy' who can put things right, which i think is always a risk with something like this. i suppose its whatever your comfortable with charging, and if you know you can make what your worth from it, then go with it.

 

[electromonkey]

I'm off out to walk the dogs for an hour.......As Arnie says, I'll be back.

 

[electromonkey]

it wasnt meant as a personal jab at you mate, i just think its majorly crap that genuine sparks have to keep lowering prices to get work.

I wasn't offended Mike, constuctive arguments/points are always appreciated. I'm probably still a bit raw over how much work I've just lost out on and not thinking too clearly. That seems to be the consensus at the mo anyway. LOL

 

[Scott F]

A pir is a days money.

If people don't want to pay the going rate then their are not worth working

for.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

A pir is a days money.

If people don't want to pay the going rate then their are not worth working

for.

Totally agree.

 

[Amp David]

I did one today and charger 20 quid per circuit. Small 3 bead house with 7 circuits. Customer was well happy with my charges.

 

[Octopus]

I did one today and charger 20 quid per circuit. Small 3 bead house with 7 circuits. Customer was well happy with my charges.

Out of interest how long did it take onsite doing the tests and time at home doing the report?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I did one today and charger 20 quid per circuit. Small 3 bead house with 7 circuits. Customer was well happy with my charges.

Did you look at the job before accepting it, or just call round on the day and inspect away?

 

[electromonkey]

I hear what some of you are saying gents in terms of part pee takers. Some of you seem to have interpreted this as me saying that I'd go and do the job - in out bish bash bosh. I don't let the sum of money I charge for a job reflect the standard to which I work. There are plenty of sparks out there who'll charge way in excess of £100 to carry out a PIR but will inspect 30-40% of the fittings, that seems more of a service that's not worth the paper it's written on.

I'm getting the feeling that undersold PIR's aren't the best image for a business. Back to the drawing board!

Cheers for the comments, the constructive ones that is.

 

[mattmoo1974]

We all live in different parts of the country.
What 1 man would nt get out of bed for is good money for another!
Offering business tips would be much more construtive then a wages war AGAIN!
And monkey iv been in the student area of cardiff, I can see why you d wanna crack that market mate!
But you ve gotta charge my friend, Cos if you do a free PIR and give them a big list of stuff to fix, There just going to think you ve made them up to cover the PIR costs :S
Double edged sword

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I hear what some of you are saying gents in terms of part pee takers. Some of you seem to have interpreted this as me saying that I'd go and do the job - in out bish bash bosh. I don't let the sum of money I charge for a job reflect the standard to which I work. There are plenty of sparks out there who'll charge way in excess of £100 to carry out a PIR but will inspect 30-40% of the fittings, that seems more of a service that's not worth the paper it's written on.

I'm getting the feeling that undersold PIR's aren't the best image for a business. Back to the drawing board!

Cheers for the comments, the constructive ones that is.

The problem I find with PIRs, is that often you can't tell how long each will take.
Recently I tested some circuits for a client, eight in one building, and eight in another building.
The first eight, actually took most of ten days to test, whereas the eight in the other building took less than a day.