Dual colour warning labels

[Octopus]

So do you stick them on CU? Are they necessary? Are they a waste of time and materials.

Cards on the table - I think we should boycott them completely!

 

[Dave OCD]

For the minimal cost and time involved we might as well cover ourselves, yes we know these labels are of little relevance as customers generally take no notice, BUT the need for them is a requirement of BS7671, so in the event of something going wrong if the blame could be directed towards lack of information he implications could

 

[sparksburnout]

Fitted a ten way board a while back, only had three circuits but had to fit a big board cos labels wouldn't all fit on a small one

Couldn't you have put them on opposite sides of the door? I had a customer moan like crazy the other week about "all those unsightly stickers" so I put them on the inside of the door", is this allowed?

 

[Dave OCD]

Yes because to do anything at all to the board or installation - including pressing an RCD test button you have to open the cover...

 

[Andy78]

For the minimal cost and time involved we might as well cover ourselves, yes we know these labels are of little relevance as customers generally take no notice, BUT the need for them is a requirement of BS7671, so in the event of something going wrong if the blame could be directed towards lack of information he implications could

I think if a person with no knowledge of wiring colour schemes created a dangerous situation worthy of apportioning blame, the onus would be on the lack of compliance with BS7671 regarding the bodge and bodger, rather than the lack of a sticker.

 

[snowhead]

What about this;
___________________________
............WARNING.............
..NO WARNING LABELS FITTED..
___________________________

 

[Dave OCD]

I think if a person with no knowledge of wiring colour schemes created a dangerous situation worthy of apportioning blame, the onus would be on the lack of compliance with BS7671 regarding the bodge and bodger, rather than the lack of a sticker.

Ok but what if [for example] an RCD failed to operate in time during a fault and someone got a nasty shock or worse, if there was no quarterly test button label that could go much further....

 

[Andy78]

Ok but what if [for example] an RCD failed to operate in time during a fault and someone got a nasty shock or worse, if there was no quarterly test button label that could go much further....

Well I have said I agree with those labels and their use. The label up for debate here is the mixed colours one.

 

[Octopus]

What about this;
___________________________
............WARNING.............
..NO WARNING LABELS FITTED..
___________________________

Perfect but should it refer to the "labels" section in BS 7671?

This approach is certainly going to get the backing of the green brigade - all those labels being made, transported .......

 

[Dave OCD]

Well I have said I agree with those labels and their use. The label up for debate here is the mixed colours one.

Ok point taken but surely all labelling by virtue of being included in the regs is of equal relevance for a complaint installation, so you might as well fit them.

 

[Wilko]

What about this;
___________________________
............WARNING.............
..NO WARNING LABELS FITTED..
___________________________

And :
Consult BS7671 for next steps

 

[HandySparks]

Ok point taken but surely all labelling by virtue of being included in the regs is of equal relevance for a complaint installation, so you might as well fit them.

Surely the point of the discussion is whether some of them should be in the regs at all?

 

[Dave OCD]

No that wasn't the point as far as I read it, worthy of discussion though.

 

[sparksburnout]

Yes because to do anything at all to the board or installation - including pressing an RCD test button you have to open the cover...

That's what I thought.

 

[sparksburnout]

Perfect but should it refer to the "labels" section in BS 7671?

This approach is certainly going to get the backing of the green brigade - all those labels being made, transported .......

It's always a bit of a challenge to get them all nicely lined up with each other and dead level.

 

[Octopus]

Maybe get some postage sized ones printed - I don't think the regs make no reference to minimum font size!