EAL Course in Inspection and Testing

[rmc86uk]

Hi Everyone

Has anyone on here done the EAL Inspection and Testing course? It is set in two parts also like the C&G 2394 and 2395. It is also open book unlike the C&G. I'm thinking of taking the course next year and just wondered what other peoples thoughts are and that the candidate pass rate must be a lot higher than the 40% for 2391.

Just to add I've seen a few posts on here from the Electrical Trainee's who have gained the 2391 qualification with no experience at all! I know a few time served Electricians who have failed the 2391 at least three times!

Surely the scam training centres must be churning the 2391 passes out so that more Electrical Trainee's enrol and spend their Five grand!

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Christ no wonder our trade is on its knees with people doing half arsed quals

 

[markc123]

All recognised quals have been accredited by OfQual . C&G is just one provider albeit the most recognised. The Level 3 units in the EAL courses should therefore match the C&G 2394/2395. They can also be done for half the price of C&G in some places.
They SHOULD in theory be accepted by the industry but may or maynot be do in practice
Vocational Qualifications

Open book against closed book. On what planet SHOULD they match the C&G ? Regardless of whether the pathetic industry regulators decide they are on par, anyone with half a brain cell can see they aren't even close.

 

[markc123]

While C&G are the most well known I think it's wrong to dismiss the EAL version when the nic and jib recognise it.

Open book vs Closed book.

No comparison. Anyone can read something from a book, give someone with half a brain that knows nothing about electrics and in theory they could still pass the open book exam. Therefore, it's a complete farce.

 

[rmc86uk]

Christ no wonder our trade is on its knees with people doing half arsed quals

Funny coming from someone who failed the 17th Edition exam

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

I didn't fail the 17th edition at all. I failed the ECS

 

[rmc86uk]

My mistake! That's even worse!

 

[AdsUk]

Just to echo other people really, but really come on, comparing a closed book exam to an open book one.

If i was an employer i would also not accept this course as anywhere near as good as the 2394/2395, simple.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

My mistake! That's even worse!

I also passed my 2394 and 95 closed book exam not a fart arsed dumbed down version

 

[robbalaar86]

I didn't compare the two I am just stating fact.

If you can do the same exam for half the price then why not? Yes I know one is closed book. Do you think the Electrical Trainee are doing anything near full quals?

To be honest the fact they have split the 91 into two stinks!!!

By your logic you wouldn't join the jib if you don't agree with their standing?

 

[markc123]

No, and that's why the Electrical Trainee have the reputation they do.

Completley agree about the 2391 though.

And as regards to the JIB thats slightly different, because the JIB are a one off really don't have a competitor. If someone similar came around to the JIB then i'd look at both and go from there.

As it stands....Mr X comes to me seeking a job and has C+G quals and Mr Y comes to me seeking a job and has the EAL equivalent. Mr X gets employed.

 

[NJG28]

Im not OfQual so I can't answer that! Not my rules!
To be honest I would suspect you'd run out of exam time if you had to look everything up.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

The 2391 used to be looked at as the golden egg. It still is for many employers. I missed out and have the 2394 and 95 which after doing a lot of 2391 past paper to prep for probably are not as hard but Are not far off. A open book makes a mockery of it and maybe the JIB could do with a rival although I am not taking anything away from them they are a good orginisation but they need to give there heads a wobble on this one. I'm not surprised scans recognise them. They would recognise a chocolate biscuit as a certificate if the cheque clears!

 

[NJG28]

No, and that's why the Electrical Trainee have the reputation they do.

Completley agree about the 2391 though.

And as regards to the JIB thats slightly different, because the JIB are a one off really don't have a competitor. If someone similar came around to the JIB then i'd look at both and go from there.

As it stands....Mr X comes to me seeking a job and has C+G quals and Mr Y comes to me seeking a job and has the EAL equivalent. Mr X gets employed.

Your choice of course as you're the boss of your own set up. You may be missing best candidate though if only choose on that criteria.

Perhaps EAL chap couldn't afford DOUBLE the EAL fee for a C&G quals. How DO C&G justify their price ?

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Next the EAL will be pumping our a knock off design course.

 

[UNG]

EAL - Excellence, Achievement & Learning Limited are they actually doing what their name says because there is no doubt standards are dropping. A quick look at their website gives plenty of information as to why this industry is in the mess it is in. They are just money chasers, X billion pounds to be spent on railways we need a cut of the training so let's get into that industry says it all.

I don't see how you can have equal parallel qualifications C&G V's EAL each has to stand on it's own merit. It is interesting how industries are on their knees yet these training companies seem to be getting bigger and bigger and there are new ones popping up all the time to deliver these courses of hope and promise.

We need to get back to proper training without all the acronyms do we need QCF, NVQ etc etc after all it is job creation without any tangible product. Does any employer actually know what the NVQ levels 2,3 & 4 are and what you could expect from someone presenting these qualifications for employment as a quick search of the web doesn't give you any reference to work with

Nobody has tried to get the more experienced tradesmen onboard with these training changes probably because it is a non understanding management driven change that is watering down qualifications while still trying to give them some kudos