EICR - 2 boards, 1 with an off peak split and one with regular supply

[Neon Vagabond]

Hi there, im looking some general advice related to this eicr.

im a bit lossed here, so would it be 2 eicr?
or do i just splice two sheets together with the relevant information?

on a seperate not i also noticed today when i had a wee look that his main water bond cannot be verified, is this a dealbreaker?
i mean i see a group of 6mm earths leaving the board(with no other purpose) but theres nothing at the stop cock.
It a block of flats (circa 1970)

Any advice would be greatly appreciated and also if anyone could recommend a specific course that teaches all the in/outs of eicr?
would it be 2391?

I mean your tradesman shows you testing and you get it at college and then you pass the test etc but no one really goes into detail and tells you how to deal with eicr(s) etc

 

[Octopus]

How could it be 2 x EICR’s ?

If you don’t know this .......

 

[westward10]

Advice, stop doing EICRs.

 

[Nigel]

I don't know who are more silly. The op or those that reply.....

 

[Octopus]

I don't know who are more silly. The op or those that reply.....

Does that include you ?

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I agree with Essex..... doh!

 

[Neon Vagabond]

haha, maybe so.

specifically im talking about the section of the eicr that asks for the details of the main switch (its before the circuit chart page and test results)
It asks for the main switch details.
So if you have two different boards with different main switches then my thinking is that both these details should be recorded.

Im not saying i know it all, and if i cant find an answer then i most likely just tell the guy that im not going to complete it.
I do try and do a good job for people.

Any advice on a course?

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Don't worry Neon, you'll get some helpful answers soon. I think it's an ok question apart from the bit about the lack of Main bonding being a 'deal breaker', I'm not sure what that means.
If the incoming water supply is in metal and there is no main bonding visible (can you see all around it?) then I would code it C2. If I couldn't see all around it then I would code it FI.
I would also test it to see what resistance it has to the MET. I do get a little confused with the 0.05ohm figure, but if there is a 6mm leaving the CU and the stop cock tests <0.05 to earth then I think it highly likely it's got a Main bonding cable attached to it.... I wonder what replies I'll get to that! (Plus the 6mm would have to have been in place for a significant amount of time and show no signs of thermal damage if it was to be classed as ok as it should be 10mm)

 

[Octopus]

Any advice on a course?

No course can prepare you for EICRs ..... only years of hands on experience ..... and that needs to be across a variety of sites and installations

 

[Neon Vagabond]

thanks for your reply.

i just meant that it would be a fail without the verification?
I would note it as a c2.
it can be clearly seen where it enters and the bond is not there.
Maybe it attaches somewhere else in the house (after the "t", who knows)
I dont think i would mark it down as verified with just a test, id have to see it.

yeah i know it should be 10mm but these 6mm do look old, and i think they used to do it with that all the time.

Don't worry Neon, you'll get some helpful answers soon. I think it's an ok question apart from the bit about the lack of Main bonding being a 'deal breaker', I'm not sure what that means.
If the incoming water supply is in metal and there is no main bonding visible (can you see all around it?) then I would code it C2. If I couldn't see all around it then I would code it FI.
I would also test it to see what resistance it has to the MET. I do get a little confused with the 0.05ohm figure, but if there is a 6mm leaving the CU and the stop cock tests <0.05 to earth then I think it highly likely it's got a Main bonding cable attached to it.... I wonder what replies I'll get to that! (Plus the 6mm would have to have been in place for a significant amount of time and show no signs of thermal damage if it was to be classed as ok as it should be 10mm)

thanks

 

[Nigel]

haha, maybe so.

specifically im talking about the section of the eicr that asks for the details of the main switch (its before the circuit chart page and test results)
It asks for the main switch details.
So if you have two different boards with different main switches then my thinking is that both these details should be recorded.

Im not saying i know it all, and if i cant find an answer then i most likely just tell the guy that im not going to complete it.
I do try and do a good job for people.

Any advice on a course?

That is referring to the main switch of the whole installation, not the individual DB's. If there is no single point of isolation then N/A that section and note in the recommendations page.

 

[Neon Vagabond]

No course can prepare you for EICRs ..... only years of hands on experience ..... and that needs to be across a variety of sites and installations

well thats what im trying to gather the now, but i think that if you dont ask questions then you will never learn anything.
Even if it might seem ridiculous to other people.
I think its worse to ignore your own ignorance?

 

[Neon Vagabond]

That is referring to the main switch of the whole installation, not the individual DB's. If there is no single point of isolation then N/A that section and note in the recommendations page.

ah right, so why does it ask about bs number and rcd ma rating?
ive never seen a main switch (ie the one directly after the meter) with an rcd on it?

 

[Nigel]

ah right, so why does it ask about bs number and rcd ma rating?
ive never seen a main switch (ie the one directly after the meter) with an rcd on it?

If it does not have an RCD then N/A that box.

Respectfully, you should have someone shadowing you doing these.

 

[Neon Vagabond]

If it does not have an RCD then N/A that box.

Respectfully, you should have someone shadowing you doing these.

is this a thing in england maybe? up in scotland im pretty sure thats not a thing