EICR codes again earths to double ins fittings

[andyyoyo]

Just been to an inspection today, as with many of them its suffering from a bit of DIY, bathroom downlights are above 225, so are out of zones, but are not IP rated, so I will probably give them a C3 ? They are double insulated but the earths have been nicely snipped out so are discontinuous & unterminated, so maybe a C2?
I'm still taking far too long with the new forms, is it just me? maybe I'm becoming an old stick in the mud.

 

[ample current]

i thought if they were out of zones they did not have to be IP rated, although prefered.

 

[andyyoyo]

Exactly, but I still think maybe it warrants some mention as these are open GU10s, thats why I was thinking of using a C3

 

[Guest 004]

surely just a code 4?

 

[andyyoyo]

Er, wot code 4 didnt think they exist anymore

 

[Guest 004]

oh really, been away for a while

 

[andyyoyo]

We are on the 19th edition now I think

 

[Guest 004]

We are on the 19th edition now I think

oh and that came out this morning did it?

 

[Guest 004]

Lets wait for the big boys reply

 

[rich.250]

You could recommend improvement c3,
But that's your professional opinion. No supporting regulations.

As for the lack of CPC continuity, my code would depend on If it has RCD protection or supplementary bonding to provide protection for bathroom.

 

[rich.250]

I don't think the new forms take any longer than a detailed pir now I'm used to the forms

 

[needasparks]

Think similar question was answered earlier, Just because they are out of the zone does not mean they are suitable for their location.
steam and moisture tends not to know the regs and goes where it likes.

 

[Des 56]

The fittings have to be suitable for the environment

In a bathroom I dont believe open lamp downlighters are suitable
Aside from moisture penetration,there is danger of injury should the lamp glass shatter,especialy,if like me the user tramps about barefoot

 

[Guest 004]

code 3 requires improvement, either by bonding or RCD protection

 

[andyyoyo]

No RCD, but I was going to recommend RCBOs for the lighting circuits anyway. No visible supplimentary bonding, but there is continuity at pipework etc.