EICR Coding

[Farmelectrics]

Take it it's a fail

 

[SirKit Breaker]

Biff as usual hits the nail on the head.

These things are subjective, but as you are doing the EICR, then you must have a good idea about what you are doing, and as such, you need to put your own professional comments on the situation.

For each problem, ask yourself the following.
1, Does it pose an immediate danger, if yes, then code 1.
2, Is it likely to cause a danger, if yes, then code 2
3, Does it need improvement, if yes, then code 3.
4, Does it comply to an earlier version of BS7671, but without faults, if yes, then code 3.

Without me seeing the install, then my opinion is based on the info you give, and you have something that falls into all of the above.

And by the way, just because it doesnt comply to 17th edition, does not deem it unsafe.

Cheers................Howard

 

[Guest123]

I need a hand to confirm what coding goes with what please on this house

I have been asked to inspect a house by an agent and this is the situation:

• TN-S Earthing (0.4 ohms) No code.
• No CPC in lighting circuit with Class 1 fittings C2
• No Bonding to Gas or Water C2
• No Sleaving on any CPCs C3
• All CPCs twisted together and put into 1 conductor on MET (in CU) C3
• Main Earth has been extended using a 6mm black (neutral) cable C3
• 10 Sockets on a 20A Radial (2.5 T&E) No code
• CU inaccessible under Stairs Define inaccessible.....
• RCD as main switch (only 5 circuits) Whilst it maybe a pain under fault conditions, cant really assign a code to IMO.
• Trunking Missing exposing unsupported Cables Definne unsupported
• Extractor Fan in bathroom controlled by the shower circuit (no shower) on 6mm T&E 32A MCB More info needed
• No labels on CU apart from an old damaged RCD label (this circuit or part of it is protected by an RCD) C3
• Half a socket in the kitchen does not work (245v LE, 110v LN, 110v NE) Neutral issue, C2.

Rewire was done about 1 year ago in old (Red & Black) cables, not notified, no certificate - landlord said the electrician and gas fitter walked off site due to payment problems (not a clue)
Boiler is less than 1 year old - never been serviced or when it was installed

I know a few of these are not a cause for concern but they are there to draw the picture


Thanks for your help

I'll humour you with my own views.

If I was there, on the day, there maybe some variances in the above depending on what sort of 'feel' I got for the install.

 

[Dean Williams]

erm... is it me?, the first question about TN-S is a the sort of question an apprentice might ask, have you not heard of guidance note 3

 

[Dean Williams]

buy guidance note 3...don't be so lazy

 

[Guest123]

Oi, Johnny 2 threads, I've just found this after answering your other identical thread.

Keep to one thread on the same subject please.

:icon6:

 

[Guest55]

Rewire was done about 1 year ago in old (Red & Black) cables, not notified, no certificate.

Something else puzzled me about this thread - the above comment.
Getting hold of enough old colour cable of the right sizes to do a full rewire is no mean feat , it will certainly be more cost and time consuming and its unlikely a couple of chancers will go to the trouble of getting it.
So i would assume no rewire was done at all to be honest , considering all the wiring faults and non-payment issues.

 

[Guest55]

buy guidance note 3...don't be so lazy

you dont have to buy any book , the info is available for free from the ESC guides on our own site lol.

 

[Spazz]

This house is one I have just moved into with my kids and misses, agent just took it on and as I was looking he gave it to me to live in and correct anything and everything that is of concern

The situation is that the landlord refused to pay the sparky & gas man so they walked off site and didn't notify/finish anything!
Clearly from what I have seen here no work was carried out at all on the electric side anyway!



Lenny delete the other thread please.

 

[Spazz]

In regards to inaccessible CU the gap under the stairs is only 2 foot high and you have to be on your bell to get to the CU, the head and meter is under there as well as the gas mains and meter.

completely stupid place to put the utility supplies if you ask me!

 

[Guest123]

I'm not deleting the other thread as members have taken their time to post replies for you in it.

I'll merge the 2 so you have the benefit of both sets of replies.

 

[sparks1973]

In regards to inaccessible CU the gap under the stairs is only 2 foot high and you have to be on your bell to get to the CU, the head and meter is under there as well as the gas mains and meter.

completely stupid place to put the utility supplies if you ask me!

nick...this is nowt uncommon fella...CUs ,service heads n gas in thick places......had old BS3036s under sinks in the corner of the cupboard a few times......CUs where they`v been `boxed in` to (make em look neater?)...except you cant get the front of......it just goes on and on....if in doubt..just blame a kitchen fitter...its always their fault..lol...

 

[Guest123]

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