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Just a quick one

I have done many EICR tests with the latest legislation regarding rentals BUT I have had a few phone calls from estate agents/landlords asking me to look at a certificate they have...

Many a time they are 2/3 pages with next to no info

One just now is 2 pages with no schedule of inspections or schedule of results... looks like a waste of paper to me

Now I know I can't specifically do anything but my advise to the letting agent is to get it done properly because IMO that isn't a certificate and with them being responsible they need to cover their behinds

Am I right in saying this? I'm sure the blank certificates in the regs are the minimum information required on a certificate

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If an electrician registered his reports with his registration organisation and they accept it , sell him insurance etc. What’s he done wrong. Seen to many with” lim and N/“

If you think the judge will accept that and absolve you of your responsibilities as an electrician then you are very optimistic!!
 
What’s he done wrong. Seen to many with” lim and N/“
As @DPG points out, a judge at some fatal accident inquiry would expect them to be able to justify their report and that it was in line with accepted professional "best practice".

Having agreed limitations on the report is fine if they are "reasonable", that is aspects that most professionals would agree are not practical to inspect and that there were no reasons to expect them to present a danger at the time.

To simply not do any testing, or to have omitted the results, falls very short of professional standards and the requirements for inspection and test in the regs.
 
You don't register your Reports to your registered scheme, nine times out of ten or more, they won't even see them.

  • Ensure national standards for electrical safety are met. These are set out in the 18th edition of the 'Wiring Regulations', which are published as British Standard 7671.
  • Ensure the electrical installations in their rented properties are inspected and tested by a qualified and competent person at least every 5 years.
  • Obtain a report from the person conducting the inspection and test which gives the results and sets a date for the next inspection and test.
  • Supply a copy of this report to the existing tenant within 28 days of the inspection and test.
  • Supply a copy of this report to a new tenant before they occupy the premises.
  • Supply a copy of this report to any prospective tenant within 28 days of receiving a request for the report.
  • Supply the local authority with a copy of this report within 7 days of receiving a request for a copy.
  • Retain a copy of the report to give to the inspector and tester who will undertake the next inspection and test.
spent good part of last year doing remedials. Believe most testers need more guidance and time. As for their competance would quite happy stand in court and say that standard work I see , has wrong or no paperwork, that fire Regs and Health and safety are not real . Going on other sparks web pages shows that most cannot choose between TN-S and TN-CS. With regular comments on the blogs from DNO workers as well , it seems past practices have made it a lottery.
As for those testing,the guidance still seems sort of standards and common sense.
so local planning are not regulators, and competent pers
 
  • Ensure national standards for electrical safety are met. These are set out in the 18th edition of the 'Wiring Regulations', which are published as British Standard 7671.
  • Ensure the electrical installations in their rented properties are inspected and tested by a qualified and competent person at least every 5 years.
  • Obtain a report from the person conducting the inspection and test which gives the results and sets a date for the next inspection and test.
  • Supply a copy of this report to the existing tenant within 28 days of the inspection and test.
  • Supply a copy of this report to a new tenant before they occupy the premises.
  • Supply a copy of this report to any prospective tenant within 28 days of receiving a request for the report.
  • Supply the local authority with a copy of this report within 7 days of receiving a request for a copy.
  • Retain a copy of the report to give to the inspector and tester who will undertake the next inspection and test.
spent good part of last year doing remedials. Believe most testers need more guidance and time. As for their competance would quite happy stand in court and say that standard work I see , has wrong or no paperwork, that fire Regs and Health and safety are not real . Going on other sparks web pages shows that most cannot choose between TN-S and TN-CS. With regular comments on the blogs from DNO workers as well , it seems past practices have made it a lottery.
As for those testing,the guidance still seems sort of standards and common sense.
so local planning are not regulators, and competent pers
Not sure what that has to do with my post.
 

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