eicr question

Matesrates · Nov 17, 2015

Hi all i have been asked to carry out an EICR for a local housing association.

Not your typical flat as is a small box flat. The shower is basically in the hall. Looking for some opinions if the hall and everything in it inc. CU would be classed as a loctaion with a bath or shower. And how/if anyone would code that.

Thanks

Sorry for the side ways photos. I font know how to rotate them.

Thanks

HandySparks · Nov 17, 2015

Blimey! Looks like the CUs are in zone 2.

Richard Burns · Nov 17, 2015

The shower room is defined by the walls of the room so anything outside the room is not in a room containing a bath or shower.
On a practical note they are very unlikely to get actual water spray but could well be in a damp atmosphere.
No code for me.

Farmelectrics · Nov 17, 2015

no code for me but maybe reccomend some doors get put on dosent look nice lol

malcolmsanford · Nov 17, 2015

As the guys above said ..........but what an abortion of an installation lol

for a few pennies you could have knocked up a frame above the front door then fitted a board with some touch latches on them and box the whole lot in

Farmelectrics · Nov 17, 2015

some people are easily pleased wouldnt want to see the site of that evreyday

HandySparks · Nov 17, 2015

Richard Burns said:
The shower room is defined by the walls of the room so anything outside the room is not in a room containing a bath or shower.
On a practical note they are very unlikely to get actual water spray but could well be in a damp atmosphere.
No code for me.

I guess it's a matter of definitions. Is the shower located in a 'wetroom' or is it in a shower cubicle in the hallway?

And is it a separate room if it doesn't have a door?

Guest77 · Nov 17, 2015

It is a no code, but I think covering the boards with a cabinet should be something considered, put it as a recommendation of the certificate.

Guest77 · Nov 17, 2015

HandySparks said:
I guess it's a matter of definitions. Is the shower located in a 'wetroom' or is it in a shower cubicle in the hallway?

And is it a separate room if it doesn't have a door?

Looking at the picture it is outside the shower room and a no code.

Deleted member 26818 · Nov 17, 2015

Most certainly the hall is a location containing a shower.
There would have to be a door for the shower not to be in the hall, even then you'd be pushing it as it doesn't look you can stand anywhere in the room other than in the shower.

ruston · Nov 17, 2015

I would go with that too,the shower cubicle is in the hall.

Andy78 · Nov 17, 2015

Tough one, but is the location defined by it's walls or door or lack thereof ?

As it is I'd be tempted to say that the pull switch is outside of the location along with the DBs, as section 701 states to take into account partitions and walls, as well as doors, to define the extent of the location and it's zones.

Even if the shower is not classed as a location, the DBs would be getting a code for unsuitability for external influences due to the lack of fixed door and likelihood of moisture ingress.