EICR report and £900 remedial work - seems fair?

[josey1978]

Hello, I felt hot sockets in my house.

I called an electrician who said the fuse board was dangerous - just by looking at it. Horrified was the word used. He carried out testing and did some other work.

£120 for the report
£140 for bonding to gas and water services
£80 for T&E cable to front of house
£50 for T&E cable to back of house
£460 for new fuse board
£165 for 3 twin sockets in kitchen

Another report was done a few months earlier and it was satisfactory.

Any comments on this report please?

Thanks.

 

[westward10]

My view isn't subjective. He has quoted the protective devices incorrectly hence missing a C2 issue.

 

[telectrix]

OK, the EICR is not perfect, but i can't disagree with his recommendations. that fuseboard is almost as old as me. .best to upgrade now and have the work done in 1 hit.

 

[westward10]

Technical content on an EICR should be correct. Whether his overall view is correct is based solely on the lack of additional rcd protection and no more. Had he had more competence he would have backed this up with the type of protective devices employed.

 

[Dustydazzler]

My view isn't subjective. He has quoted the protective devices incorrectly hence missing a C2 issue.

Indeed and I fully agree

But i have seen reports suggesting a C type breaker as a C2 , and when I queried this with the person who did the report their answer was ‘ I dint like C breakers in domestic’

 

[Zerax]

If you go ahead with it... send him one of the pics from here that shows a very neatly made up board... as an example of what you're expecting...

 

[Flanders]

Did the electrian replace your fuse board or just quote for a new one if he has replaced it you should have an electrical insulation cert

 

[westward10]

Indeed and I fully agree

But i have seen reports suggesting a C type breaker as a C2 , and when I queried this with the person who did the report their answer was ‘ I dint like C breakers in domestic’

Aside from the dreadful presentation of that Report it is a classic example of why a huge percentage of people who carry out EICRs should steer well clear of them.

 

[Flanders]

Yes agree with westward its seams to me that electrians know how to do all the testing and inspection but struggle to understand the forms . On this report they have put N/A in the insulation resistance test for live and live . This should of been tested or Limmed out

 

[josey1978]

All of the work mentioned above has been completed.

Should I just have an electrical certificate or also a minor works certificate?

 

[Flanders]

All of the work mentioned above has been completed.

Should I just have an electrical certificate or also a minor works certificate?

You should have an electrical installation cert. Which will say on what work has been done . For example. Replaced consumer unit . Bonding to gas and water and remedial work carried out to rectify observations on eicr and the work is notifiable the document you have posted is the electrical condition report

 

[happysteve]

Those are Type 4 circuit breakers

(Not doubting you for a second, but) how do you/would you know?

 

[westward10]

Experience I suppose. Square D QO-X mcbs if coloured brown are Type 4 and nothing else. Later white cased ones can be 1, 2, 3, B, or C and are never brown cased. The brown ones would have had it stamped on the front but nine times out of ten it has worn off.

 

[ashrow]

@ happysteve

By experience

 

[josey1978]

Sorry, one mistake above. The original report was also unsatisfactory. There was a C2 for the socket. Nothing else mentioned apart from a recommendation to upgrade the fuse board which I was content to do.

I have emailed the electrician and asked him about some of the things that have been written above and whether he thinks my installation is now safe. I also mentioned the serial number of the test instrument not being recorded properly (it doesn't look like a serial number, more like a model number). I have also emailed him about the socket which is broken and still not replaced even though it was promised by him verbally. I am worried it could deteriorate further.

I have bought this house recently and want it to be as safe as possible. I'm worried that the test recordings may not be correct and also whether the electrician has picked up all existing faults.

His reply to my email was:

Hi Xxxxx
Have a look on niceic website
My company name is
Xxxxx Ltd
We are approved contractor
We do both inspection on domestic and commercial
Never had any issues with insurance, you can phone niceic and ask any questions you want about my company.
Regards


There was no mention of any of the issues I raised. Would it be a good idea to have a totally new EICR carried out by someone competent?

 

[telectrix]

i think that the EICR you have, although not perfect, does highlight the issues you have, and the recommendations appear to be reasonable. i'd go with the guy's quote for remedials, but makes sure you both agree on what works are to be carried out a £---. get this in writing, so you are both on the same page.