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I can understand accessories you may only sample a percentage but allot of companies only test %20 of the final circuits.
Thats like taking your car for an MOT and only looking at half the car... should this practice be outlawed as testing firms are getting away is issuing a worthless report and only a small amount tested?
** i know some people test over a period of 5 years, i am exclusively talking about works carried out with no intention to return
 
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These 20% tests are a joke, most locally seem to be carried out by the same large company. I asked to see the certificate for a recent one. The '20%' was testing 2 circuits out of 10.The 2 circuits tested were both radials, one was a circuit feeding one hand dryer, the second circuit fed one single socket which was in reach of the fuseboard. A pointless waste of money.

We aim to test as many circuits as practical, the amount of inspection carried out depends on the general condition of the installation.
 
These 20% tests are a joke, most locally seem to be carried out by the same large company. I asked to see the certificate for a recent one. The '20%' was testing 2 circuits out of 10.The 2 circuits tested were both radials, one was a circuit feeding one hand dryer, the second circuit fed one single socket which was in reach of the fuseboard. A pointless waste of money.

We aim to test as many circuits as practical, the amount of inspection carried out depends on the general condition of the installation.
It’s always the easy circuits tested as well.
Never lighting
 
6.21 in the schedule of items inspected on the Niceic version of an Eicr.
Identify numbers and locations Of items inspected in section D which is your extent of the installation inspected.
So I might have agreed 30% of accessories sampled per circuit where applicable and I’ll mention the location(s) such as say prescription room and reception area as I did when I tested a doctors surgery the other week.
Different to mine. (Clik)
 
6.21 in the schedule of items inspected on the Niceic version of an Eicr.
Identify numbers and locations Of items inspected in section D which is your extent of the installation inspected.
So I might have agreed 30% of accessories sampled per circuit where applicable and I’ll mention the location(s) such as say prescription room and reception area as I did when I tested a doctors surgery the other week.
Different to mine. (Clik)
 
Different to mine. (Clik)
Yeah I mean the NICEIC have a section on downlights which I don’t think anyone else does but I could be wrong.
Being an NICEIC company the boss will not use any other model forms and he does it using his NICEIC software.
I’m a picky tester I’ll admit that and sometimes I do waffle on abit on the test certs I hand over but I do try to be thorough.
I’ll take twice as long as some of the other lads but when you compare test sheets you’ll see why :rolleyes:
 
Yeah I mean the NICEIC have a section on downlights which I don’t think anyone else does but I could be wrong.
Being an NICEIC company the boss will not use any other model forms and he does it using his NICEIC software.
I’m a picky tester I’ll admit that and sometimes I do waffle on abit on the test certs I hand over but I do try to be thorough.
I’ll take twice as long as some of the other lads but when you compare test sheets you’ll see why :rolleyes:
I hate to think what we'll have with the 18th. I heard them waffling on about SPD's on Thursday at Elex. Nearly dropped off before I slung my hook.:rolleyes:
 
I hate to think what we'll have with the 18th. I heard them waffling on about SPD's on Thursday at Elex. Nearly dropped off before I slung my hook.:rolleyes:
Anything worthy of note come of the elex technical wise?
Or did you have NICEIC booth saying one thing and a napit booth saying the opposite?
 
It would appear not even though we have pointed it out to them. Any power circuit is a Limitation even though you have four hours prior to them opening, seems a standard thing for the other bods doing it that any circuit with a socket on it to Limit it.
 
It would appear not even though we have pointed it out to them. Any power circuit is a Limitation even though you have four hours prior to them opening, seems a standard thing for the other bods doing it that any circuit with a socket on it to Limit it.
Do they not even do a zs test at the sockets?
And do they even give a reasonable explanation of why it’s a limitation on the report?
 
Nope and I have seen loads of third party Reports where power circuits are Limitations due to IT equipment bla bla bla.... This is why they do it so cheap, quote for the lot and Limit most of it.
 
Anything worthy of note come of the elex technical wise?
Or did you have NICEIC booth saying one thing and a napit booth saying the opposite?
I was only there for a couple of hours...so no comment. Chatting to NIC.....more outlay for 18th course, of course.
I can see a lot more limitations being involved.
 
I do as percentage where I have tested fully before or sometimes when records are available from someone else on the proviso that it all looks sound on close inspection. I.e. if the percentage is tested and tallies with previous tests. Always do 100% inspection, percentage of accessories and then the test percentage of circuits when doing this, then a different selection next time. At the end of the day if you know what's there it's stupid keep pulling it about.
 

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