Eleccy work favors for brother requiring certs???

[8yf13l0]

Afternoon all.

I sence I may get some abuse for this but here goes...

I tried starting up self employed as an electrician a few years ago but basically the phone never rang, so after a slight gap I ended up on the books with an FM firm covering MoD sites etc as a spark, I negociated a good salary/perks etc so I stayed put up to now, also because of this I am not with a governing body like NICEIC/Napit etc.

Despite this, my brother (general builder) still keeps electing me for small electrical itty bitty jobs on his customer jobs which I do out of ours from my day job for beer money i.e change a socket to chrome, move a light switch/socket or convert a pendant to downlights etc, although the work stream is generally infrequant, I do not mind doing them.

But much more recently he has been trying to rope me in some bigger works like extension jobs, new builds etc that require new installs and certificates for building control etc.

I find it hard to say no to my brother especially that I/we do not know of any local electricians between us to pass them on to - rural area.

On such jobs if I where to provide a Installation or Minor works certificate (depending on job), copy of MFT calibration certificate and my trade competancies, is there any way of me doing the job and notifying building control myself, or is it a big fat no no?

I know it is best to be a part of a trade governing body but in my part time situation, being a member would not be financially or practically viable, because these type of works are like I said; infrequant, and any chance of earning extra dosh is always a big bonus.

Let us know your views on this please.

Many thanks in advance.

Jamie

 

[Pete999]

If your Brother has his own building business, get him to become registered and he can do all the required paperwork etc.

 

[8yf13l0]

My competancies are: Tech Level 3, 17th edition amentment 3 and 2394/3395 - sorry I forgot to put these in original post.

 

[telectrix]

new builds and extensions, where building control is already involveddue to the actual building, as long as you can show BC your quals.and proof of PL insurance, they generally accept a copy of you EIC without you being in a scheme. as work picks up, then it's adviable to join 1 of these scams for around a tenner a week subs. ( for non-notifiabe jobs, this is irrelevant, as BC don'tneed to be involved. )

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

get your brother to join stroma for under £300. he should have all the insurances as a builder you have the mft and just need a few books and a calibration cert.

 

[telectrix]

if OP is going full self-employed, he'll do work for himself and maybe other builders, so better for him to join. ( IMO)

 

[Toneyz]

It seems that you have got to the stage where you or your brothers firm will have to join a scheme not sure if you can incorporate it into the building/construction notification.

 

[Dobes_88]

As others have said it'll be worthwhile getting in with Stroma for under £300!

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Just a note, work which results in a MEWIC being issued would not be notifiable.

 

[Risteard]

Just a note, work which results in a MEWIC being issued would not be notifiable.

Presumably that should be work "resulting in a MEIWC being issued would not normally be notifiable".

Presumably minor works in special locations remain notifiable?

 

[Octopus]

If you are going to be issuing certificates, best you tell HMRC about your 2nd income .....

 

[telectrix]

If you are going to be issuing certificates, best you tell HMRC about your 2nd income .....

why? they never tell me what they earn.

 

[davesparks]

Just a note, work which results in a MEWIC being issued would not be notifiable.

It is if it’s in a bathroom isn’t it?

 

[The Ghost]

A bit of a confusing area for me. I do work on extensions for a builder and he says the building inspector just wants my certs or he wont pass the building works. I say well my work is automatically notified through my scheme so he shouldn't be concerning himself with the electrical work. But builder insists that's what BC have asked for! Not quite sure about that. I asked to speak with the guy but it seems that is "difficult" so I am a bit non-plussed about where that all stands.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Sorry yes, any work within the zones in a location containing a bath or shower is notifiable.