ELECSA Certification Scheme ELECSA defines LANDLORD property as Commercial

[JOliver]

I might ring them later for clarification. If this is the case then I expect I may be cancelling.

I would appreciate if you would let me know what they say. I also sent them an email requesting written confirmation. That was yesterday afternoon, & I have not received any reply.

I do not like ambiguity in areas like this, & in relation to Part P, it is quite clear that it relates to Domestic property, whether rented or not. If there is a dissection of responsibility in this area, it should be provided in written form, & to everybody.

 

[Engineer54]

I would appreciate if you would let me know what they say. I also sent them an email requesting written confirmation. That was yesterday afternoon, & I have not received any reply.

I do not like ambiguity in areas like this, & in relation to Part P, it is quite clear that it relates to Domestic property, whether rented or not. If there is a dissection of responsibility in this area, it should be provided in written form, & to everybody.

There is no ambiguity, ELECSA have it ''WRONG'' a rental property does and will come under Part Pee regulations, no matter what ELECSA say's or doesn't say!! It has sod all to do with them, and should know better!!

 

[tazz]

These organisations including local Governments, are now doing the money racket. For rented HMO, you need to pay for a licence, the council tax is higher per property, the landlord must have PL insurance, can only be mortgage with higher rate commercial loan......So now they class it as a commercial dwelling, and with it must go gas & electrical certs........total money making racket....the be all and end all is a house is a house, just because 5 people live the dos not change that fact, so why Part P cert can`t be use, is just to charge more money

 

[Risteard]

Just out of interest why does the misguided Part P/Pee/Poo (whatever it is - I don't have any dealings with it) consider that domestic installations are higher risk than commercial and industrial installations for example?

Doesn't seem to make any sense to me.

 

[Octopus]

What doesn't sense to me is why Elecsa should think that a rented home differs from an owned home!

 

[Guest55]

Who By? Bubbles the Chimp?

oh , the irony of that post in relation to your avatar pic lol.

banana delivery for mdj

 

[spark 68]

Just out of interest why does the misguided Part P/Pee/Poo (whatever it is - I don't have any dealings with it) consider that domestic installations are higher risk than commercial and industrial installations for example?

Doesn't seem to make any sense to me.

I believe it is because commercial and industrial premises are under some form of supervision of sorts, where as a dwelling has to contend with anything from from small children up to and including old people, who are deemed to be 'ordinary' and not skilled or trained supervised etc.

A factory will almost certainly have someone in charge.

 

[Guest55]

Can anyone clarify this. I have been informed that ELECSA defines Landlord (i.e. Rental property) as commercial property, & therefore not covered by their Part P scheme.

been told wrong then.

unless you have a link or offical source for this claim ?

 

[spark 68]

been told wrong then.

unless you have a link or offical source for this claim ?

Exactly Biff, that is why I have not phoned them yet, on the strength of a rumour on the net.

I have signed off landlords electrical work in the past, where you can send the paperwork to a different address to the one where the work was carried out.

I do notice on the Elecsa website it mentions "private dwellings" though, I might ask them on Monday as I cannot be ar*ed to talk to them today.

I try not to talk to them if possible, I rarely, if ever, need advice on domestic.

 

[Guest55]

well it certainly wont impact on my little earner selling bent certs to dodgy landlords thats for sure.......

 

[tazz]

just phoned, 2 HMOs we look after, who are decent landlords.....both have looked at their certs signed off by 2 different companies, one cert issued November 2013. Both certs are by Part P companies, and Greenwich Council have issued HMO licences, with no problems.

 

[Geoffsd]

It is obviously wrong because, according to this, for example, a block of flats would be under Part P if an owner lives in one of the flats but not if they were all rented.

Again, according to this, a flat you were working in would not be under Part P if ALL rented, How would you know?