electric gates with intercom

[lurch]

Hi Guys

Anybody out there with experience fitting electric gates with intercom door entry system? I have a system spec'd -
but have no real experinece fitting this sort of setup.

Any help appreciated.

Lurch

 

[Darkwood]

They vary from manufacturer to manufacturer .... just follow the spec if adequate info is supplied, or ring the supplier and express your limited experience with these systems and im sure they will help out.... exactly what about it is concerning you?
Are you just laying in the wiring system and the fitters connecting or are you doing the connections yourself.

 

[CSEE]

Use CAME automation from Nottingham,they are top quality gear and excellent product and technical support offer you free training on products

 

[jon4381]

Fitted some automated gates in the past,nothing to worry about mate. Just make sure the gates open and close freely before fitting the motors. Depending on what type of motors you are fitting. Are they under ground ones or the above motors. And what type of intercom is it or hav'nt you made a decision on that yet.

 

[lurch]

beninca above ground openers. Comelit Ikall intercom. Just got limited experience with this stuff. I suppose its the interface between the openers and the intercom is the area I am alittle concerned with :


http://www.beninca.com/uploads/info/aad3ca0c40b1793208802dceaf39dd6e49adf4eb.pdf

http://www.proconel.com/Procon/files/fb/fb0b4d3a-1c19-4695-b497-dd85fcff91c1.pdf

http://www.comelitgroup.com/int/modules_cms/PrCatPage.php?cc=152&pc=334

 

[Jonesy83]

Not goin try put you off but you'll need get the gate certified for a crush test now by law if your doing the gate yourself

 

[Engineer54]

I think you'll rule the day you got involved with automated electric gates. From my experience they are nothing but trouble with a capital T, and you'll be back and fourth, fixing one problem after another!! ...lol!!

 

[D Skelton]

The biggest and most important part of gate installs is safety!

Any old monkey can whack a gate in but it takes a real professional to be able to design and spec a gate that will both operate and fail safely! There's too many instances of little kids getting crushed and decapitated by bodged install gates.

Firstly you need a professional installer to perform a risk analysis of the proposed installation, once the potential hazards have been assessed only then can the appropriate automation equipment and necessary safety devices to minimise or eliminate the potential impact of those hazards be selected. There are many hazards to consider including the collision or crushing effects most commonly associated with swing gates and the shearing/guillotining effects associated with sliders and also many safety devices and installation methods to consider such as meshing and bump strips/ribs, photocells and auto stop motors.

You say that you have little experience of fitting these systems yet you've specced one yourself? I mean this in the most respectful way possible buddy but you really need to consult with a specialist gate automator here. Gates are a minefield and the sector is ripe with shocking installs and bad installers offering cut price discounts for lack of safety gear. What you are planning should be dealt with by an expert of the industry and no one else.

 

[lurch]

The biggest and most important part of gate installs is safety!

Any old monkey can whack a gate in but it takes a real professional to be able to design and spec a gate that will both operate and fail safely! There's too many instances of little kids getting crushed and decapitated by bodged install gates.

Firstly you need a professional installer to perform a risk analysis of the proposed installation, once the potential hazards have been assessed only then can the appropriate automation equipment and necessary safety devices to minimise or eliminate the potential impact of those hazards be selected. There are many hazards to consider including the collision or crushing effects most commonly associated with swing gates and the shearing/guillotining effects associated with sliders and also many safety devices and installation methods to consider such as meshing and bump strips/ribs, photocells and auto stop motors.

You say that you have little experience of fitting these systems yet you've specced one yourself? I mean this in the most respectful way possible buddy but you really need to consult with a specialist gate automator here. Gates are a minefield and the sector is ripe with shocking installs and bad installers offering cut price discounts for lack of safety gear. What you are planning should be dealt with by an expert of the industry and no one else.

hi thanks for feedback. FYI I have not spec'd the system out just installing the gates openers/closures. on completion the gate company will commission and sign off.

 

[D Skelton]

What type of gate is it and what type of safety measures are you installing?

 

[Bonner]

It depends on the manufacture because there are so many brands. It is not a difficult task you just check the gate it working freely or not? Test the intercom also. There should be an installation guiding book to install gate follow the instruction otherwise call to any experienced person.

 

[Landril]

I agreee with D. Skelton automated gates require a lot of thought i.e. weight of the gates, length, which way they open, what angle they open up to, will they open towards an upward angle (hill), how many sets of photo cells are required, induction loop under the ground may be wanted, etc....but the biggest and main worry is the total safety of the gates movement, you need to ensure the gates can stop dead in the event a person/vehicle gets in the way of them opening or closing.

I worked for a automated gate company and the prices they charged were very high, purely because the time taken on installing an automated system requires a lot of prep work before you even pick up a tool to start the job.

I'm sure the intercomm side will be no big deal for a spark.

If you have not done this type of work before good luck and just think if you were a child would the gates stop before you got crushed in them.

 

[Outspoken]

The biggest and most important part of gate installs is safety!

Any old monkey can whack a gate in but it takes a real professional to be able to design and spec a gate that will both operate and fail safely! There's too many instances of little kids getting crushed and decapitated by bodged install gates.

Firstly you need a professional installer to perform a risk analysis of the proposed installation, once the potential hazards have been assessed only then can the appropriate automation equipment and necessary safety devices to minimise or eliminate the potential impact of those hazards be selected. There are many hazards to consider including the collision or crushing effects most commonly associated with swing gates and the shearing/guillotining effects associated with sliders and also many safety devices and installation methods to consider such as meshing and bump strips/ribs, photocells and auto stop motors.

You say that you have little experience of fitting these systems yet you've specced one yourself? I mean this in the most respectful way possible buddy but you really need to consult with a specialist gate automator here. Gates are a minefield and the sector is ripe with shocking installs and bad installers offering cut price discounts for lack of safety gear. What you are planning should be dealt with by an expert of the industry and no one else.

^^^^^^^^^^^ What he said first ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^