Electric touch hob not coming on (plus consumer unit issue)

[crapusername]

I've recently had a new cooker point ran from the consumer unit and have had a new touch control ceramic hob installed on it but could get absolutely nothing from the hob at all, no display or anything. After looking at the consumer unit fuse board I realised the electrician who installed the cooker point had done so on a 6amp circuit breaker instead of a 32amp one.

Would that explain why the hob isn't turning on at all or should it be coming on and tripping the fuse?

 

[sparksburnout]

I'll go by my Missus (she who must be obeyed) 'What do want for tea love?', we are talking 6.30 (that's 1830hrs). Argument over, as far as I'm concerned. Incidentally, its me that cooks the !?*$@:; dinner, I mean tea.

Now we are trespassing into unknown, dangerous lands. When you say "what do you want for Tea (dinner) love?", are you telling us that this is you uttering these words, and not your other half?
If this is the case, I think she might need to look at her job description??

 

[Rpa07]

Now we are trespassing into unknown, dangerous lands. When you say "what do you want for Tea (dinner) love?", are you telling us that this is you uttering these words, and not your other half?
If this is the case, I think she might need to look at her job description??

Uh oh!
And whilst we are there @Midwest all you seem to do these days are cook and eat. Are you sure you're on the right forum, this isn't "eclecticfoodroom"!
Almost clever but not quite!

 

[Midwest]

Quiet.

I do these things entirely for 'your' now sparksburntout, as it seems you do!

 

[Midwest]

Now we are trespassing into unknown, dangerous lands. When you say "what do you want for Tea (dinner) love?", are you telling us that this is you uttering these words, and not your other half?
If this is the case, I think she might need to look at her job description??

Nope she ask me what I want for tea, then I cook it. No confusion

 

[Midwest]

Uh oh!
And whilst we are there @Midwest all you seem to do these days are cook and eat. Are you sure you're on the right forum, this isn't "eclecticfoodroom"!
Almost clever but not quite!

I do a little bit of electrical work, when I'm not doing that, cooking and drinking, excuse me fine wine and dining, damn it beer & tea.

 

[freddo]

Single phase links not fitted in hob.

 

[Taylortwocities]

This is ridiculous. As far as I can see, at no point, has anybody used a proper voltage tester to check if there is 230V at the connection point before the hob itself.

 

[Des 56]

I would suspect that there is a failure and unlike the Hobs it can stand on 2 legs

This is ridiculous. As far as I can see, at no point, has anybody used a proper voltage tester to check if there is 230V at the connection point before the hob itself.

You say the same except you make the point so much better than I

 

[crapusername]

Hey just an update. The electrician EVENTUALLY came back out.

I spoke to him on the phone and he said again something along the lines of 'if the hob doesn't work it must be faulty. It sent my wiring but I'll come have a look anyway'.

Then he didn't turn up when he said he was going to and pretended he had never agreed to come on that day.
Then he eventually arrived and took a look in the consumer unit, looked puzzled for a few seconds before this conversation happened

Him: yeah it's all right. Just how it's supposed to be
Me: but it doesn't work
Him: it won't do. I've put the neutral in the 6amp breaker and the live in the 32amp.
Me: so it isn't right then
Him: of course it's right, that's how I always do it so that you can't get electrocuted by the bare wires before you install the hob. I told you I was coming back to change it over when the hob got installed.
Me: no you didn't, if you knew it was that then you would have said on the phone, you wouldn't have said the hob was faulty if you knew you had wired it like this and it couldn't possibly work.
Him: I never said that. This is how you're supposed to do it.

Then he moved the neutral from one breaker to the other. Without switching either off by the way. Is that safe? And instantly the hob beeped in the kitchen and sprung into life.

So now I have one happy hob and an electrician who is a clear liar.

Out of interest is he right? Is it normal to connect the live to 32amp and neutral to 6amp temporarily for a week until the hob is installed?

And as for you lot when don't know your dinner from your tea. I had my dinner a few hours ago and my tea is in the oven now. I had to clear that up

 

[Octopus]

^^^

Gobsmacked if this account is true

 

[Andy78]

Never mind which is dinner or tea, whatever it is I was eating just got spat over my monitor in shock

 

[Taylortwocities]

Is that electrician called John Wayne?

 

[crapusername]

^^^

Gobsmacked if this account is true

Apart from knowing he's a liar does that mean that the neutral and live on different circuit breakers is not the correct temporary thing to do? And working on them with them live I assume is a definite no no?

 

[HandySparks]

Out of interest is he right? Is it normal to connect the live to 32amp and neutral to 6amp temporarily for a week until the hob is installed?

Absolutely not. Various ways of leaving it safe, but that definitely isn't one of them.

He could have connected up properly and then locked off the circuit breaker. Or left the line and neutral unconnected, and preferably earthed.

 

[Pete999]

He put the N into a 6Amp Breaker and the L into a 32Amp breaker, are you sure about that statement? and he did it that way until you got the cooker installed?, you have either got what he said wrong, or he is a Dingle Berry, and needs his dangly bits beaten to a pulp. Just as an after thought how many cables feed your Hob and Cooker, I could understand him getting the Hob and Cooker mixed up. He seems to be talking scrotum's I'm assuming he had wired to a Cooker control unit which could have been made live, so all the cooker supplier had to to was to isolate at the CU connect up the cooker and Hob livened it up, and away you go, connecting the N to a 6Amp breaker never in a million years, did "the Electrician" belong to any of the CPS compenant Persons Schemes eg NICEIC, NAPIT, ELECSA, STROMA etc if he did and what you say is correct then contact the scheme he belongs to, personally and it's not a dig at you being a non electrical type you probably didn't fully understand what he was saying, at least I hope that's the case, still glad it's all sorted for you now.