Electrical Concerns

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Hmm, thanks for this reply.

On closer inspection of the monitors, each are using a 1.5A supply. Times three that's 4.5A.

As for the others, most of them come in at 1.5A with a few at 1A power supplies. The extension lead itself has a 13A maximum limit, therefore I think I'll be fine.

You asked for the advice my friend - either way you look at it, even if you're running three monitors at 4.5A, that leaves you a maximum of 8.5A not just on the remaining seven outlets, but for the whole socket. And if you have two full ones - well, you can do the maths.

I'm not being funny, my friend, but you did come in asking for advice - why dismiss it all?

Why bother?

 

[Cined]

You asked for the advice my friend - either way you look at it, even if you're running three monitors at 4.5A, that leaves you a maximum of 8.5A not just on the remaining seven outlets, but for the whole socket. And if you have two full ones - well, you can do the maths.

I'm not being funny, my friend, but you did come in asking for advice - why dismiss it all?

Why bother?

Waitwut?

You are saying that the whole socket has a maximum of 13A. That means that each of the outlets on the socket can handle 6.5A? That makes no sense.

 

[Amp David]

He knows best, he's a computer programmer!

 

[Cined]

He knows best, he's a computer programmer!

Priceless.

 

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Waitwut?

You are saying that the whole socket has a maximum of 13A. That means that each of the outlets on the socket can handle 6.5A? That makes no sense.

No, you've said that. I'm saying this:

Currently, I have two 10 point extension leads (which are full) that these power supplies are plugged in to and am worried that I'm going to 'overload' the single Mains point that the extension leads are plugged into in my bedroom.

A SINGLE mains point as YOU said you had TWO 10x extensions leads plugged into, has a total load allowed of 13A.

However, if you are now talking about a DOUBLE socket outlet, into which you have plugged one ten way lead on either side, I'd still say you're pushing your luck running maximum load out of one double continuously, as the socket WILL get hot, and break down.

I return to my earlier point - why bother? It's fairly clear it wasn't advice you wanted, but a justification for ignorance.

I'm outta this one.

 

[Phil]

The importance of punctuation!

I have no idea what you mean

 

[Cined]

No, you've said that. I'm saying this:



A SINGLE mains point as YOU said you had TWO 10x extensions leads plugged into, has a total load allowed of 13A.

However, if you are now talking about a DOUBLE socket outlet, into which you have plugged one ten way lead on either side, I'd still say you're pushing your luck running maximum load out of one double continuously, as the socket WILL get hot, and break down.

I return to my earlier point - why bother? It's fairly clear it wasn't advice you wanted, but a justification for ignorance.

I'm outta this one.

Even if I did mistakenly say that you should've assumed I meant a Double socket. As I said I'm not an electrician, but you are. Since when does only Single outlets get installed in a room?

Thanks for your advice, but I think the advice in post 4 will suffice.

 

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Even if I did mistakenly say that you should've assumed I meant a Double socket. As I said I'm not an electrician, but you are. Since when does only Single outlets get installed in a room?

Thanks for your advice, but I think the advice in post 4 will suffice.

And there's mistake number two.

NEVER assume anything with electricity.

You don't have to be an electrician to tell the difference between a SINGLE and A DOUBLE.

Would you be happy if I just assumed your electrics were safe, and then your house burnt down?

How arrogant you are.

 

[derek preece]

I made a suggestion, but I am not a qualified electrician, I would pay more attention to the other posts if I were you

 

[IQ Electrical]

Single sockets in bedrooms are very common, we don't have crystal balls here and assume worst case scenario!

A twin socket is still only rated at 13 amps, NOT 26 amps, google it!

 

[Amp David]

And there's mistake number two.

NEVER assume anything with electricity.

You don't have to be an electrician to tell the difference between a SINGLE and A DOUBLE.

Would you be happy if I just assumed your electrics were safe, and then your house burnt down?

How arrogant you are.

Calm down Bill.

You never know he may be partially sighted due to all that time sitting in front of his computer with Pam and her five sisters!

 

[Cined]

Single sockets in bedrooms are very common, we don't have crystal balls here and assume worst case scenario!

That's news to me. None of the rooms in my house have < 2 sockets per room (Bedrooms also). I would think the same goes for any house built > 1990's.

A twin socket is still only rated at 13 amps, NOT 26 amps, google it!

"Each socket (presumably for flat pin plugs) is designed to deliver a maximum of 13 amps - hence the 13 amp fuse you find in new plugs. Thus a double socket can supply no more than 26 amps. The current is given by dividing the power rating of the appliance connected by the voltage thus for a 250 volt supply a three kilowatt appliance will draw 12 amps.
Now, electric sockets are connected to the fuse/circuit breaker board by a ring main and this is fused (or circuit breakered) to a maximum of 30 amps (32 for circuit breakers) Hence one double socket supplying two three kilowatt appliances does not leave very much spare for other appliances connected elsewhere in the ring main. Depending on how old your wiring is, you may have one ring main wiring all the sockets in the house, or all the sockets on a floor, and in my house I have put a separate ring in for my kitchen. You can tell how many ring mains you probably have by counting the fuses you have at 30 amps (circuit breakers at 32)."

Already did before posting.

 

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Calm down Bill.

You never know he may be partially sighted due to all that time sitting in front of his computer with Pam and her five sisters!

LOL!

I am now meditating

 

[derek preece]

All MK socket-outlets are manufactured to comply with BS1363 part 2: 1995 and are rated at 13A per unit. Double socket-outlets have been manufactured and tested to exceed this rating by margin that allows electrical safety and reduces the risk of heat and mechanical damage to components due to overloading. It should be noted that BS1363 part 2: 1995 does not allow double sockets to operate at twice the permissible maximum loading and it should be remembered that double socket-outlets are not manufactured to be able to withstand a 26A load for sustained periods of time.

Research by ourselves and third party organisations has shown that all MK double sockets can safely withstand a continuous load of 19.5A for an indefinite period. Increasing the load slightly will begin to cause heat and mechanical stresses on the components in a relatively short period. Testing showed that a load of 22.3A was sufficient to cause heat stress that would cause a browning of the faceplates and sufficient heat to cause insulation damage to cable cores. A load of 24A for 43 hours was sufficient to cause significant heat damage to the material in which the socket-outlet was situated and within 75 hours sufficient to cause significant damage that would lead to the very real potential of fire.

MK recommend that users of their sockets consult professional design Engineers when designing installations to avoid the possibility of heat and mechanical stress to components and installations caused by overloading of MK socket-outlets.

 

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"Each socket (presumably for flat pin plugs) is designed to deliver a maximum of 13 amps - hence the 13 amp fuse you find in new plugs. Thus a double socket can supply no more than 26 amps. The current is given by dividing the power rating of the appliance connected by the voltage thus for a 250 volt supply a three kilowatt appliance will draw 12 amps.
Now, electric sockets are connected to the fuse/circuit breaker board by a ring main and this is fused (or circuit breakered) to a maximum of 30 amps (32 for circuit breakers) Hence one double socket supplying two three kilowatt appliances does not leave very much spare for other appliances connected elsewhere in the ring main. Depending on how old your wiring is, you may have one ring main wiring all the sockets in the house, or all the sockets on a floor, and in my house I have put a separate ring in for my kitchen. You can tell how many ring mains you probably have by counting the fuses you have at 30 amps (circuit breakers at 32)."

Already did before posting.

Quote the site you got it from too. That's only polite. Even if it's junk. And wrong.

Oh, whatever.