Electrical Installation Condition Reports

[Octopus]

Mandatory in Scotland already for rental properties......so you would hope it would slowly come into place for the rest of the uk. I know there will always be 'driveby' testers but in large it's bound to help there overall safety of rental properties.....maybe...... The problem is how many people are caught up with after issuing bad and clearly fake test sheets.

But nobody is Policing this nor do all landlords know about it .....

 

[Toneyz]

if it becomes law, that will only feed the drive by testers. eicr for £50 just to give landlords a cheap tick box that's worth jack shyte.

The reason the tick boxes was added is the idea is the tester actually inspects the installation and is confirming they have.

 

[Octopus]

The reason the tick boxes was added is the idea is the tester actually inspects the installation and is confirming they have.

But why did they add them to the EIC ?

 

[Toneyz]

But why did they add them to the EIC ?

Same reason people were just signing off without actually doing the inspection supposed to be forcing the tester to inspect the item and in black and white confirm you did. Due to the idiots like my old boss who expected a test to take an hour and do the basic test and put a gun to the head of the tester, it's got to pass as it is a mate of his.

 

[Octopus]

Same reason people were just signing off without actually doing the inspection supposed to be forcing the tester to inspect the item and in black and white confirm you did. Due to the idiots like my old boss who expected a test to take an hour and do the basic test and put a gun to the head of the tester, it's got to pass as it is a mate of his.

The tick box exercise on an EIC is stupid imho ...

 

[Toneyz]

The tick box exercise on an EIC is stupid imho ...

Well if it was done properly would be no need to be forcing the issue.

 

[Apollo Facilities]

It will be a numbers game for landlords, Be it private or public sector as they will rush around to get them tested. Unfortunately alot of people's mentality would be....

Well it says satisfactory on the report and its not my name on it.

What they don't realise if a there is say a fire due to bad electrical work, There house could be going up in flames

 

[Octopus]

Well if it was done properly would be no need to be forcing the issue.

A few months ago I sent an EICR and an EIC to a customer - they couldn’t understand the difference - says it all really

 

[Apollo Facilities]

Excuse me if all that didn't make sence It's been a long day.......

 

[BruvDunk]

What about a start/ finish time where the signatures are. To make it a bit harder for the 'fly-by' testers to do the £50 specials that aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

 

[Strima]

What about a start/ finish time where the signatures are. To make it a bit harder for the 'fly-by' testers to do the £50 specials that aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

My tame MOT tester has to put a start and finish time when he does a test, we end up drinking brews for 30 minutes waiting for the timer to finish...

 

[BruvDunk]

My tame MOT tester has to put a start and finish time when he does a test, we end up drinking brews for 30 minutes waiting for the timer to finish...

Sounds like a plan to me.

 

[SparkyAndGeorge]

A friend of mine used to work for a councils contractor doing EICR's. He was expected to do 5 a day including traveling time. His hands were tied, if he complained he'd be shown the door. He just did the very basic tests, ring continuity, couple of zs's, EFLI and RCD trips times. The rest was ITV testing (in the van), he eventually had enough and walked!

 

[Toneyz]

My old boss was the same with testing the new builds that were done poor Rod was had to do 4/5 a day "got no money in for testing". One of these may be a commercial EICR as I knew he was retiring I walked as it would have been left to me.

 

[Deleted member 116030]

Hi this is the letter my friend was sent by the letting agency for his property.








Ministry of Housing, Communities & Local Government
3rd Floor, Fry Building, 2 Marsham Street, London SW1P 4DF

www.gov.uk/mhclg Our Ref:3862554 Date:8 August 2018



Thank you for your letter of 14 July to the Minister for Housing and Homelessness about electrical safety checks in the private rented sector. Your email has been passed to me for reply. Please accept my apologies for the delay in responding.

The Government are committed to ensuring that everyone has the opportunity to live in a home that is safe and decent. Existing legislation already requires landlords to keep electrical installations in their property in repair and proper working order, and it is currently best practice for landlords to organise periodic inspection and testing and to provide a report to the tenant.

The Government introduced an enabling power into the Housing and Planning Act 2016 to allow requirements for electrical safety checks in private rented properties - and their enforcement - to be set through secondary legislation at a later date.

The Department set up an Electrical Safety Standards working group to advise on what legislation might be necessary. The working group recommended introducing five yearly mandatory electrical installation checks for private rented property. Other recommendations were that there should be a set of safety measures encouraged as good practice and set out in Government guidance. They also recommended a ‘competent persons scheme’, whereby those carrying out the mandatory checks would need to be accredited.

The Department held a consultation from 17 February to 16 April 2018 to allow wider engagement with the sector to test the recommendations put forward by the working group.

On 19 July the Government announced that we will introduce a mandatory requirement on landlords in the private rented sector to ensure electrical installations in their property are inspected every five years. This will help drive up standards across the private rented sector and reduce deaths and injuries due to electric shocks and fires caused by electric faults.

A full Government response to the other working group recommendations and public consultation will be published in the autumn on www.gov.uk.

Yours sincerely Carl Hellicar