Electrical Installation Level 3 Course - Distance Learning?

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

Hi,

Just wondered if anyone knows whether there is such a thing as a distance learning version of the level 3 (C&G or EAL) Electrical Installation course, but which isn't one of the '8 week wonder' type courses, i.e. is an actual full year of study. As I understand it, the 8 week wonder type courses aren't really viewed by employers as being legitimate. At least that's what members here advised me on previous threads some years back

For context, I have just completed my level 2 Elec Installation EAL course, and I've been scouring the colleges in the local area as well as father afield for a level 3 to get on to, sadly the provider which I did my level 2 with doesn't offer a level 3 evening or part time course starting next September. Nor are there any other colleges within a feasible distance who are offering level 3 part time / on an evening study basis

One of the other students on our course mentioned that a friend of his is studying level 3 via distance learning, but wasn't able to elucidate about where or with which provider this was with. He mentioned that because the level 3 is apparently mainly theory, the bulk of it is able to be done via distance learning (including zoom meetings I guess?) and that there is then also a residential week/ weekend in which the practical aspects can be completed by students attending the college.
I'm really keen to get on a level 3 course. I see so many vacancies on job sites which require both level 2 and 3 and it seems I need to get the level 3 under my belt (plus more practical experience in the field, which I am getting as I'm now employed as an electrician's mate with a local firm) to be able to look to move up in terms of better salary.

Any feedback gratefully welcome

 

[rewireIT]

I’m starting to like you.!

Please answer:-

Do Solar Panels just work in sunshine???

Nope. They register voltage even when it's cloudy it just drops significantly. I don't know about at night since i've never tested panels at night.

Can I receive an electrical shock when the Main Isolator is OFF.?

What, from solar? Yes because it's fed from the panels not the main incomer.

 

[Penguin]

Nope. They register voltage even when it's cloudy it just drops significantly. I don't know about at night since i've never tested panels at night.

What, from solar? Yes because it's fed from the panels not the main incomer.

WELLDONE,

You can receive an electrical shock from solar panels, even at NIGHT with a full moon.

Also removing OLD fluorescent tube units through the Capacitor.

DC battery units..!!! (EV cars) etc

And obviously ‘lightning’ discharge up into your MET.

What is your career am, and where are you at in your quals, and what are you wishing to know.????

 

[rewireIT]

WELLDONE,

You can receive an electrical shock from solar panels, even at NIGHT with a full moon.

Also removing OLD fluorescent tube units through the Capacitor.

DC battery units..!!! (EV cars) etc

And obviously ‘lightning’ discharge up into your MET.

What is your career am, and where are you at in your quals, and what are you wishing to know.????

Right now I want to get qualified properly. I'm working as an improver, got my 18th, ipaf etc and work in commercial. Have a fair bit of solar experience (roughly 100 installs solo). Been doing basic electrics for nearly 20 years but until the late 2010s was only doing them here and there. Then I decided to specialise and do only electrics full time.

I have a lot of silly questions since I look at stuff and think 'hmm how does that actually work' which led me to signing up here. I'll often know how to wire something but nit know how it works internally or whatever.

Got my T+I next which in hoping to book on at the end of the year.

 

[Penguin]

Right now I want to get qualified properly. I'm working as an improver, got my 18th, ipaf etc and work in commercial. Have a fair bit of solar experience (roughly 100 installs solo). Been doing basic electrics for nearly 20 years but until the late 2010s was only doing them here and there. Then I decided to specialise and do only electrics full time.

I have a lot of silly questions since I look at stuff and think 'hmm how does that actually work' which led me to signing up here. I'll often know how to wire something but nit know how it works internally or whatever.

Got my T+I next which in hoping to book on at the end of the year.

Hi rewireIT,
You sound like you’ve got plenty of hands on experience, and installing roughly 100 solo installs of Solar, is all good examples of competence. If you haven’t done your I&Testing, then WHOs signing off this work.??

There’s NO such thing as a silly question!!!

Electrical installs are changing all the time.

We never had ‘Dirty Electrics’ 20yrs ago, but due to DC controlling units in modern appliances were now dealing with this.

Why can’t you just complete an online level 3, and keep learning with the company that is giving this work??!!

 

[rewireIT]

Hi rewireIT,
You sound like you’ve got plenty of hands on experience, and installing roughly 100 solo installs of Solar, is all good examples of competence. If you haven’t done your I&Testing, then WHOs signing off this work.??

The QS. He personally trained me in how to test the installs so he knows my testing was how he wanted it. I was only required to Ze and PFC the board and Zs the circuit.

Why can’t you just complete an online level 3, and keep learning with the company that is giving this work??!!

Would have to do my Level 2 first and i'm not prepared to do 2+ years at college when i'm eligible to go straight for my Experienced Worker Route NVQ 2346.

 

[nicebutdim]

Would have to do my Level 2 first and i'm not prepared to do 2+ years at college when i'm eligible to go straight for my Experienced Worker Route NVQ 2346.

You need 5 years of demonstrable experience, before being considered for Experienced worker assessment.

 

[rewireIT]

You need 5 years of demonstrable experience, before being considered for Experienced worker assessment.

I've been in dialogue with NAPIT and a local NVQ centre, i'm well aware of what i need. Luckily i have it.

 

[nicebutdim]

I've been in dialogue with NAPIT and a local NVQ centre, i'm well aware of what i need. Luckily i have it.

To be clear; whatever experience you have gained is of no relevance to me and I sincerely hope you can continue to progress within this profession, but I find it difficult to reconcile the above statement with posts you have previously made on other, seemingly discarded, accounts.

In October 2020 you posted a thread as Camoelectric (subsequently changed to the name Electrics) trying to determine whether it would be best to begin training as an electrician in France or the UK, which contains some statements about prior experience

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Around the same time you posted your CV, with comprehensive detail about employment history and experience gained in various fields, in order to assist another prospective trainee. It details little in the way of experience in this industry and appears to show little possibility of having squeezed in 100 solar installations which happen to have been omitted form the document.

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It is entirely possible that you had considerable prior experience as claimed, although these and many other threads might lead one to the conclusion that is not the case - most especially when you have encouraged others, on numerous occasions, to embellish or fabricate experience for prospective employers.

If you do indeed have the experience you claim, then I would encourage you to start an experienced worker assessment at the earliest opportunity as this would greatly improve your potential earnings and help to plug any gaps in learning to date. If, on the other hand, you happen to be embellishing your past experience, I would urge caution as you never know who might be reading this forum and putting 2 and 2 together.

 

[DPG]

Ah 'CamoElectrics' and 'Electrics' - I remember those users. Wonder what the reason is for people creating multiple accounts?

 

[Penguin]

To be clear; whatever experience you have gained is of no relevance to me and I sincerely hope you can continue to progress within this profession, but I find it difficult to reconcile the above statement with posts you have previously made on other, seemingly discarded, accounts.

In October 2020 you posted a thread as Camoelectric (subsequently changed to the name Electrics) trying to determine whether it would be best to begin training as an electrician in France or the UK, which contains some statements about prior experience

Does anyone know if French qualifications are accepted in the UK ? | on ElectriciansForums

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In October 2021 you started a thread about having embarked on an apprenticeship, which opened with surprisingly humble and honest comments about your experiences during the first week.

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Around the same time you posted your CV, with comprehensive detail about employment history and experience gained in various fields, in order to assist another prospective trainee. It details little in the way of experience in this industry and appears to show little possibility of having squeezed in 100 solar installations which happen to have been omitted form the document.

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It is entirely possible that you had considerable prior experience as claimed, although these and many other threads might lead one to the conclusion that is not the case - most especially when you have encouraged others, on numerous occasions, to embellish or fabricate experience for prospective employers.

If you do indeed have the experience you claim, then I would encourage you to start an experienced worker assessment at the earliest opportunity as this would greatly improve your potential earnings and help to plug any gaps in learning to date. If, on the other hand, you happen to be embellishing your past experience, I would urge caution as you never know who might be reading this forum and putting 2 and 2 together.

Hi Nicebutdim, I’ve answered and questioned this

To be clear; whatever experience you have gained is of no relevance to me and I sincerely hope you can continue to progress within this profession, but I find it difficult to reconcile the above statement with posts you have previously made on other, seemingly discarded, accounts.

In October 2020 you posted a thread as Camoelectric (subsequently changed to the name Electrics) trying to determine whether it would be best to begin training as an electrician in France or the UK, which contains some statements about prior experience

Does anyone know if French qualifications are accepted in the UK ? | on ElectriciansForums

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In October 2021 you started a thread about having embarked on an apprenticeship, which opened with surprisingly humble and honest comments about your experiences during the first week.

I thought short courses were fine. Just done a week on site. Now i think they're not fit for purpose. | on ElectriciansForums

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Around the same time you posted your CV, with comprehensive detail about employment history and experience gained in various fields, in order to assist another prospective trainee. It details little in the way of experience in this industry and appears to show little possibility of having squeezed in 100 solar installations which happen to have been omitted form the document.

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It is entirely possible that you had considerable prior experience as claimed, although these and many other threads might lead one to the conclusion that is not the case - most especially when you have encouraged others, on numerous occasions, to embellish or fabricate experience for prospective employers.

If you do indeed have the experience you claim, then I would encourage you to start an experienced worker assessment at the earliest opportunity as this would greatly improve your potential earnings and help to plug any gaps in learning to date. If, on the other hand, you happen to be embellishing your past experience, I would urge caution as you never know who might be reading this forum and putting 2 and 2 together.

Hi NBD, I’ve been in communication with this ‘rewireIT’, but have come to the conclusion that he/she is above the need to have to qualify with a Level 3 ( I understand that the Level 2, is possibly a WOT, but the proses is there).!!!!

If your really that focused and capable then DO the relevant Courses and quality..

I sign off my apprentices work, because I’m present on site.!!!!
I’d never send out an apprentice (non qualified) to install some 100 solar jobs SOLO.!!!!

He clearly sounds like a danger to himself and others.!!!!!

[Ive just finished reading a book, and going to start BRAIN Surgery tomorrow].!!!

 

[nicebutdim]

Hi Nicebutdim, I’ve answered and questioned this

Hi NBD, I’ve been in communication with this ‘rewireIT’, but have come to the conclusion that he/she is above the need to have to qualify with a Level 3 ( I understand that the Level 2, is possibly a WOT, but the proses is there).!!!!

If your really that focused and capable then DO the relevant Courses and quality..

I sign off my apprentices work, because I’m present on site.!!!!
I’d never send out an apprentice (non qualified) to install some 100 solar jobs SOLO.!!!!

He clearly sounds like a danger to himself and others.!!!!!

[Ive just finished reading a book, and going to start BRAIN Surgery tomorrow].!!!

I'm also an adult trainee, but undertaking a hard won apprenticeship.

Some consider me a fool for taking that route, but I figured it was the best means of gaining a good grounding in both practical skills and theoretical knowledge. I've been around the block a few times, in my close to 5 decades, but the most valuable knowledge gained in that time is knowing one's weaknesses and limitations and improving upon them, which isn't always easy and nor is it comfortable.

 

[Penguin]

I'm also an adult trainee, but undertaking a hard won apprenticeship.

Some consider me a fool for taking that route, but I figured it was the best means of gaining a good grounding in both practical skills and theoretical knowledge. I've been around the block a few times, in my close to 5 decades, but the most valuable knowledge gained in that time is knowing one's weaknesses and limitations and improving upon them, which isn't always easy and nor is it comfortable.

Totally agree.

Your never to old.!!!!!!

And we all keep learning every day.!!!

The person that states they know everything is a fool.

That’s why I have younger male and female apprentices as there better in accessing a loft and can operate the termination of fibre optical cable better than me.

I’m more than happy to pass on my knowledge and when you witness them soaking up the info it’s great.

I set them challenges with rewards which cost me early this year as I took them Skiing.!!!!

They’d never been BUT I had…! So I showed them who’s Boss.

It’s a wonderful industry so keep going regardless of your age.

 

[piscass]

Totally agree.

Your never to old.!!!!!!

And we all keep learning every day.!!!

The person that states they know everything is a fool.

That’s why I have younger male and female apprentices as there better in accessing a loft and can operate the termination of fibre optical cable better than me.

I’m more than happy to pass on my knowledge and when you witness them soaking up the info it’s great.

I set them challenges with rewards which cost me early this year as I took them Skiing.!!!!

They’d never been BUT I had…! So I showed them who’s Boss.

It’s a wonderful industry so keep going regardless of your age.