Electrical Work?

[KJJ1971]

Hi,

I changed jobs half way through my final year of my Electrical Installation course back in 2001. Unfortunately, my new job meant I worked unsociable hours, which meant I wasn't able to qualify as I failed in attendance.

I have however carried out many successful electrical installations from additional lights / sockets, consumer unit changes to complete rewires, all of which passed test & inspection by a qualified electrician.

My question is:
I need to change a consumer unit in a flat I rent out and my tenant is questioning the legality of me doing the work, regardless of being tested by a qualified electrician. Am I allowed to do this?

Thanks, Keith

 

[Dustydazzler]

In exactly the same way you can build your own extension so long as you get the borough council to sign it off

How many university qualifications does the local builder need to build an extension ?

 

[nicebutdim]

I don't know what the law says about those things (except for notifying which anyone can do) but was just answering his question about legality when installing.

I find it's best to refrain from providing advice when knowledge is limited.

 

[DPG]

But there is a prevalent myth that you 'need' XYZ to 'do electrical work' and you don't.

Certifying can be done by notifying building control which can be done by anyone.

You can do the lot with zero qualifications.

I just like to remind people of that because i dislike people coming out with all sorts of baloney when it comes to electrics. My father in law tried to tell me it was 'illegal' to do electrical work unless you're 'fully qualified' and that you cannot sell your house without certificates, all of which is total guff, although it doesn't stop even electricians from peddling it.

I don't think your advice is helping the OP to be honest.

 

[nicebutdim]

I don't think your advice is helping the OP to be honest.

It provides a straight answer, but sometimes further qualification is prudent.

 

[Electrics]

I don't think your advice is helping the OP to be honest.

He asked if he is 'allowed' to do it so i answered. I was just making a small point and you've decided to stretch it into several posts. Just move on.

 

[DPG]

He asked if he is 'allowed' to do it so i answered. I was just making a small point and you've decided to stretch it into several posts. Just move on.

But he can't test it!!

So does he leave the tennant without electricity while he gets it tested and certs filled in?

I'm not stretching anything, I'm making a valid point.

 

[Dustydazzler]

The only way that I can see a DIY consumer unit really working out is if the DIYEr does it in an empty property and then gets an EICR done the day after (this does not get round the lack of planning permission)

BUT

That could work (not strictly correct) but better than having no testing

 

[nicebutdim]

He asked if he is 'allowed' to do it so i answered. I was just making a small point and you've decided to stretch it into several posts. Just move on.

You're allowed to drive at 200mph, but it might be considered irresponsible to advise anyone to do so without further qualification.

 

[Dustydazzler]

You're allowed to drive at 200mph, but it might be considered irresponsible to advise anyone to do so without further qualification.

Are you thou ?

If I drove at 200 miles per hour I would likely end up in jail

If I fit a fuse box at my own property I doubt the police would even smack my bum

 

[nicebutdim]

Are you thou ?

If I drove at 200 miles per hour I would likely end up in jail

If I fit a fuse box at my own property I doubt the police would even smack my bum

Only if you did so on a public road.

Like I stated, sometimes answers require further qualification.

 

[Deleted account]

The law states that anybody can do electrical work of any kind as long as they are competent.

not sure I agree with this statement.

In regard to law. Are you referring to statutory regulations or non statutory regulations.

also the term competent is no longer recognised in the regulations.
electricaly skilled is what is now required.

 

[Vortigern]

I am guessing the OP has had an EICR done as required in last years landlord requirements to provide said EICR, is that correct @KJJ1971 ? To be honest it is getting so complex now that after 45 years on the job and umpteen C&G qualies I begin to wonder if even I can change a box¬

 

[Vortigern]

The law states that anybody can do electrical work of any kind

Sorry, what "law" is that? Can you refer me to the primary source for that statement i.e. the particular chapter/statute?

 

[KJJ1971]

Wow,
Apologies for poking a preverbal hornets nest.

Everything here presented is of sound advice. I didn't realise the circuits needed testing prior to the board being changed, and as commented, if I were to change and wire in the new board, this work would have to be undone for said pre-testing, so pointless.

Oh, and just for your information I am a Mechanical, Electrical, Hydraulic and Pneumatic Engineer working in the Rail Industry. I guess you could say I know a little of everything ?

Thank you so much to everyone who has contributed in helping me, I am truly grateful.

Keith

 

[MJPD29]

Wow,
Apologies for poking a preverbal hornets nest.

Everything here presented is of sound advice. I didn't realise the circuits needed testing prior to the board being changed, and as commented, if I were to change and wire in the new board, this work would have to be undone for said pre-testing, so pointless.

Oh, and just for your information I am a Mechanical, Electrical, Hydraulic and Pneumatic Engineer working in the Rail Industry. I guess you could say I know a little of everything ?

Thank you so much to everyone who has contributed in helping me, I am truly grateful.

Keith

Impressive cv, but can you cook?