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Are their any set qualifications to be classed a a fully qualified spark?
Do you have to be qualified to carry out electrical work?
When i worked on site with electricians they all seemed to have different qualifications
I have done a City and Guilds Part 1 in electrical installation and have an NVQ 2 in electrical engineering
 
you can never consider yourself a fully qualified electrician. my qualifications r level 2 and 3 also 17th edition im an electrician but cant work on houses because im not part p registered where does it stop
 
Set route to consider been a "BASIC" fully qualed sparky (open to debate)

Apprenticeship with AM2
17th edition 2382
Inspection and Testing 2391
NVQ 3 2356
Electrotechnical Qual 2330 Level 3

or similar

obviously other routes into different levels of electro stuff is required i.e HNC and the compex stuff
 
three and half years wasted at college to become an electrician part p as spoiled it for me im seriously thinking of applying at mcdonalds
 
im not 100 percent sure how to do it my understanding of it is u need to rewire 3 houses pay them x amount of cash for them to asses your work in all the 1 year and half that ive been advertising ive never gotten a full rewire job yet. mainly faults partial rewires extra sockets and lighting
 
at leeds college of technology only 2330 2 and 3 17th edition was available to me 2391 needs to be taken elsewhere part p is just a massive scam to me
 
im doing level 2(2years) level3(1 year) and fourth year preparation for am2 is this how yours went,, aye you should become training provider these days,,,,,
 
I am totally confused it used to be easier years ago (I think) you
1. Served 4 years and passed electrical regulations and principles course B (Approved) A being electrician and C being technician but no B no job
2. Spent 2 extra years improving to obtain my approved card but only with my employers agreement
3. Returned to collage for the 15th then the 16th then the 17th
4. Completed the Select course on Inspection and testing

I served my time in commercial/industrial moved on to Intruder alarms,HVAC/BMS controls then building maintenance and now domstic property maintenance and I keep asking myself what hoops are some of these snotty nosed kids want me to jump through now as I have said before this should get clarified with a definitive explanation but then again negitivity creeps in and me thinks jobs for the boys who are meant to manage all of this yet funny thing is if I am a "Eastern European" electrician with a card that the ink is still drying on then I expect my human rights to be recognised and let me ply my trade in all EU countries and employers will fight to uphold these rights as long as they get to pay lower wages.

Funny old world isnt it
 
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im not 100 percent sure how to do it my understanding of it is u need to rewire 3 houses pay them x amount of cash for them to asses your work in all the 1 year and half that ive been advertising ive never gotten a full rewire job yet. mainly faults partial rewires extra sockets and lighting
napit will require to see 2 jobs. one major ( e.g. new ring main) and one minor ( e.g.modified circuit) . these can be jobs you have done in your own home. obviously, they will need to see relevant certs. and asses you on the jobs and your being able to demonstrate that you are competent in testing your work. it's worth googling them and requesting a welcome/applivcation pack.
 
im not familiar with am2 i did the 17th edition after level 3 but would you not need to do the 17th edition before am2 as i think its the bare minimum before doing higher level courses
 
three and half years wasted at college to become an electrician part p as spoiled it for me im seriously thinking of applying at mcdonalds

You think you're the only one fella? The b*******s lied to loads of us, I remember the adverts even now, screaming at us how much the construction industry needed tradesmen. It was all going to be so wonderful... a real socialist utopia and jobs for all - er, except the indigenous people of England. In our case, we can just p*** off, and be grateful for the dole. After all why pay one of them nasty working class english chavs to do a job, when we can get a nice cheap Johnny Foreigner to do it for peanuts.... Sorry, I'm getting side tracked and the red mist is coming down.

Back to the point, Part P, if it was properly thought out and implimented could of been a good thing for the industry but like everything else that the socialists touch it ends up as s***. I wish that I'd done something else as well. Maybe washing car windscreens at traffic lights.
 
I am totally confused it used to be easier years ago (I think) you
1. Served 4 years and passed electrical regulations and principles course B (Approved) A being electrician and C being technician but no B no job
2. Spent 2 extra years improving to obtain my approved card but only with my employers agreement
3. Returned to collage for the 15th then the 16th then the 17th
4. Completed the Select course on Inspection and testing

I served my time in commercial/industrial moved on to Intruder alarms,HVAC/BMS controls then building maintenance and now domstic property maintenance and I keep asking myself what hoops are some of these snotty nosed kids want me to jump through now as I have said before this should get clarified with a definitive explanation but then again negitivity creeps in and me thinks jobs for the boys who are meant to manage all of this yet funny thing is if I am a "Eastern European" electrician with a card that the ink is still drying on then I expect my human rights to be recognised and let me ply my trade in all EU countries and employers will fight to uphold these rights as long as they get to pay lower wages.

Funny old world isnt it


tend to agree here i did my 15th edition then had to redo 2 years later as it changed to 16th then did my 2391 then did the 2400 then did the 17th worked dam hard draging armoured through muddy trenches , under floors in lofts etc some youngsters just want the money come to work stinking of aftershave with hair gelled ,compalin about safety shoes as they are uncomfortable , no come on guys ,and electricians job is not a breeze you get covered in mud ,loft insulation dust and grease and grime and when its summer you sweat alot its dam hard work , on top of that theres the paperwork and book keeping to do to Rant over lol
 

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