Electrician Wanted

[cr0ft]

Hi all. I'm already a qualified plumber and have recently completed my 5 week inspection and testing, 17th Edition and Domestic Electrical Installer Qualification. I am looking to try and build up a working relationship with an electrician in the Lincoln area who might need a second pair of hands. In return I am actively getting electrical work in through my existing business and it looks like I will have a re-wire coming up in the next couple of weeks.

The job will entail putting in a RCD protected consumer unit and running the usual 2 lighting and 2 ring mains circuits plus a cooker radial. I would prefer to work with a good electrician on this job as having 2 people speeds up work like this and also I don't really want my first job to be me out there on my own, even though I am very confident in the theory side of things and (having worked as a plumber running my own business) am happy working in properties.

Obviously we would split the labour 50/50 on the job and I will be supplying all materials for the job.

I'm really not interested in anyone flaming me about having done a 5 week course so please don't reply if you're only going to be rude about this! Even though I'm (in theory) well qualified to do this I am aware that practical experience counts for a lot, hence this post.

Finally, I'm ex-military and have a good work ethic and am looking for an electrician to work with who has the same attitude. This job will be assessed by the NICEIC in order to register me so all the work will need to be done to the highest standard. I am doing all the cable calculations for voltage drops, sizing etc.

If anyone is at all interested in this then please PM me.

Thanks for your time to read this!

 

[cr0ft]

Thanks all for the various opinions. It seems I have someone who is interested to work in the capacity I'm after. After all, I will be connecting all the wiring and will still have to answer any assessor's questions on the day, technical or otherwise, in order to pass.

For the record, I'm perfectly capable of drilling joists in the right place and selecting cable sizes!

I hope the negative ones are more positive when you are at customer's houses!

 

[DNS1]

whats up with him?..should know ẁhat he`s doing......

Very true, but there are some things which are just impossible without a 2nd pair of hands.

I just had to pull a cable through cavity wall yesterday to a new socket, despite it being technically very simple, it would have been near impossible without a friend at the bottom to shine the torch in from the bottom and grab the rod for me!

 

[malcolmsanford]

You're living in the past I'm afraid mate. Not easy to earn that sort of money as an engineer these days, even with the degree (seeing as every man and his dog has one).

In my job you find a lot of people who have previous experience elsewhere. I've worked on aircraft with former doctors, nurses, lawyers and professional musicians.

The days of having to stick with a career are gone, there's nothing wrong with changing your mind these days and doing something completely different.

I suppose i'am living in the past to a degree (pun or not) but to be honest a chartered electrical engineer will easily earn that type of money. The problem is in today's work place we are not guiding many people/ engineers to work towards that charter status because it takes time.

I'm not even sure how many points you need in today's workplace to get your charter but it took several years for a junior engineer to get that status with a lot of hard work and time as well, but the rewards are still there, just not the encouragement to do it I guess.

 

[1shortcircuit]

And here we go again... New member coming on here for advice and nearly everyone giving them a hard time because of the route into the trade. Come on guys, you must be getting bored of writing the same old arguments as much as many of us on the forum are getting bored of reading them?

cr0ft, there are good and bad in every trade. Sometimes I browse posts on this forum and wonder exactly HOW GOOD some of the members are, my reason being IF they were that good then why might they be on the forum posting so many negative comments? Some may be due to a different timeline, some may be due to health reasons but others (Possibly) due to the fact that they just cannot win any work at the moment and don't want to see yet more competition on it's way?

I believe you have tried to do right by joining the forum in search of advice. What you need to do now is let the negatives sprinkle off of your back and sift for the positive comments coming from the members you will learn a lot from. You will learn a great deal on here once you suss out who to listen to and who not. There are members who have posted in this thread who you may not want to write off just yet as they are very knowledgeable but just have a particular view on how things should be done

Welcome to the forum and good luck :thumbsup

1SC

 

[londonlec]

I wish you the best of luck, as some others have said you are definitely doing the right thing by not claiming to be a 'know it all'.

If I was nearby I'd certainly think it through. Best of luck.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

And here we go again... New member coming on here for advice and nearly everyone giving them a hard time because of the route into the trade. Come on guys, you must be getting bored of writing the same old arguments as much as many of us on the forum are getting bored of reading them?

cr0ft, there are good and bad in every trade. Sometimes I browse posts on this forum and wonder exactly HOW GOOD some of the members are, my reason being IF they were that good then why might they be on the forum posting so many negative comments? Some may be due to a different timeline, some may be due to health reasons but others (Possibly) due to the fact that they just cannot win any work at the moment and don't want to see yet more competition on it's way?

I believe you have tried to do right by joining the forum in search of advice. What you need to do now is let the negatives sprinkle off of your back and sift for the positive comments coming from the members you will learn a lot from. You will learn a great deal on here once you suss out who to listen to and who not. There are members who have posted in this thread who you may not want to write off just yet as they are very knowledgeable but just have a particular view on how things should be done

Welcome to the forum and good luck :thumbsup

1SC

I wasn`t being negitive short mate......just got a thing about people just "walzing in" and claiming their a qualified this n that....on the back of a 6 week course thats all....i dont like it and a aint gonna change what i think about it either......

 

[cr0ft]

Thanks and yes, I am defensive when people make ignorant comments about my abilities because I've done a 5 week course. I don't apologise for that.

Just to re-iterate Engineer54, my plumbing was a 'short course thing' as well, although my customers seem to have liked it. As I mentioned, my business was forced to VAT register due to turnover at the start of it's 3rd year of trading so I can't have been doing that badly at it. In fact, that goes against your obvious perception of people who do 'short course things' doesn't it?

I built my plumbing business having done a 7 week course 3 years ago into one of the most successful companies in my local town in 3 years. I'm not expecting my first year of electrical work to be plain sailing which is exactly why I'm looking to find someone to work with.

I would have thought that people would take me much more seriously coming on here acknowledging my limitations than going out unaided after a 5 week course but maybe I'm missing something.

If you can explain to me how someone with a mortgage and their own business can make a 3 or 4 year apprenticeship work for them (I'm 31 by the way) then crack on and explain it to me.

 

[Dan the spark]

Very true, but there are some things which are just impossible without a 2nd pair of hands.

I just had to pull a cable through cavity wall yesterday to a new socket, despite it being technically very simple, it would have been near impossible without a friend at the bottom to shine the torch in from the bottom and grab the rod for me!

Am I wrong here in saying that I was on the understanding that you weren't supposed to run cables down the cavity anymore?

 

[GLENNSPARK]

well for a start croft...you wont find many "ignorant" members on a forum such as this......if we were all "ignorant" as you say then how would we be able to get our heads around the various books we have to consult on a regular basis...or all the codes of practice/regs we have to be mindful of?......if anything it`s you who is being ignorant by expecting many in here to give you lip service when your claiming to be "qualified" at this n that and have experience working in/on peoples properties........yet after becoming a "qualified electrician" in about..what was it?...ah yes 5 weeks...5 WEEKS..lol....

 

[Engineer54]

Thanks and yes, I am defensive when people make ignorant comments about my abilities because I've done a 5 week course. I don't apologise for that.

Just to re-iterate Engineer54, my plumbing was a 'short course thing' as well, although my customers seem to have liked it. As I mentioned, my business was forced to VAT register due to turnover at the start of it's 3rd year of trading so I can't have been doing that badly at it. In fact, that goes against your obvious perception of people who do 'short course things' doesn't it?

I built my plumbing business having done a 7 week course 3 years ago into one of the most successful companies in my local town in 3 years. I'm not expecting my first year of electrical work to be plain sailing which is exactly why I'm looking to find someone to work with.

I would have thought that people would take me much more seriously coming on here acknowledging my limitations than going out unaided after a 5 week course but maybe I'm missing something.

If you can explain to me how someone with a mortgage and their own business can make a 3 or 4 year apprenticeship work for them (I'm 31 by the way) then crack on and explain it to me.

Of course you don't apologise for it, why would you, ...you're a qualified electrian now!!

The reason i don't take you seriously, is because i can see that over confidence in you and in what you were taught in 5 weeks. You have shown that by your statement about having no troubles with a CU change, which you have never done before, and you confidently spouting about going it alone come what may. To be totally honest with you now, i think you wanted someone to help you get your assessment job completed, so that you could claim to be registered to give you some form of respectibility. The rest being a smoke screen... As i stated before on your thread, your only fooling yourself and unfortunately your clients!!

So because you have made a success out of a 7 week plumbing course, your well and truely confident it'll be the same on the electrical side, ...Right?? I can't tell you how wrong that assumption is going to be, you'll have to find that one out on your own!!!

 

[Richard]

Am I wrong here in saying that I was on the understanding that you weren't supposed to run cables down the cavity anymore?

HA! I was waiting for someone to say that!!

 

[cr0ft]

Tell you what. You can all take your forum and shove it where the sun doesn't shine to be honest. You blissfully ignore the fact in your argument that no one in my position can possibly work on apprenticeship rates, its just not possible.

Shame that the dinosaurs here ruin it and that the minority that do have an open mind are drowned out. I'll crack on with it myself and I can guarantee that I will pass the assessment, more motivated by closed-minded individuals like yourself Glenn.

If you want to see how a friendly, helpful forum runs, pop over to the plumbing forum some time.

I feel sorry for the trade I'm joining from the responses I'm seeing on here, I really do. If you bother to take the time to read my first post, you will note that I am quite clearly saying the opposite of what you are trying to insinuate. I am (on paper) qualified but by coming on here and asking for assistance I am recognising that I'm not. It's a shame that idiots like you actually encourage me to do exactly the opposite of this sensible approach, and say stuff you. I will do it myself and I can promise you, in a few years I will be a successful electrician without your assistance.

You can post what you like in response to this, I'm not going to waste any more time on this forum to be honest.

Great result guys, hope you are pleased!

 

[Dan the spark]

Richard
I went back through to an old post on this but couldn't work out how to copy it to this thread, just for future reference for DNS1

 

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