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well Lenny as Draper baought Knipex and elora and Georerg ( the wrentch company) as well as others they are remamrkably simmilar.

I only know this as i was stuck in a shop in glasgow and given the history lesson my an old guy behind the counter. Sadly the shop is shut. (vics tool store in Partick in Glasgow)
 
It's the price that drew me to em, knipex 180's are ÂŁ25-30, whereas the draper ones I paid ÂŁ14 for.

Dont get me wrong you get what you pay for and all that but so far no problems with em at all.:)
 
Hi Baz

Are those the "S" range type ones with the all red insulation on the handles, or the normal ones with red and yellow handles. I meant the normal ones.:)
 

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