electricl certificate

[egginyourface]

labc is a bit of a joke. my parents had a extension built with 3 new circuits. labc sent a sub contractor who supposedly did a complete check! he measured zs and checked the rcd. i might have a copy of the cert he issued us with, it looked like a minor works cert. he didnt even bother doing IR test r1+r2 continuity of bonding. he was literally there for about 20mins. its obvious they were paying him peanuts and that showed in the service they provide

labc just want to make money, they dont care what condition your home is in.

my tests are way more thorough than what they would ever do

 

[Octopus]

"labc just want to make money, they dont care what condition your home is in.

my tests are way more thorough than what they would ever do"

Do you not get it, your tests may be far superior and more thorough but UNLESS you follow the law and do it the right way by way of the notification process you will end up in court, sooner or later.

Silly question - if you have the qualifications, knowledge and experience why don't you go down the Part P route and join up with one of the trade bodies?

 

[nickblake]

if you chance a CDU and are not regestered you have to notify the authorities prior to you doing the work and then after the work is complete as has been mentioned all domestic work comes under Part P ,

 

[spud1]

If you have changed a dist board it is notifiable under part P and you have to be a registered domestic installer and certificate properly ! or you can do this through the LABC for lots of £.

 

[egginyourface]

ive only ever done work for other sparks, and only recently started doing my own work.

funny u say that murdoch, just got my public liabilty and prof indemnity and getting ready to have some1 from napit come down and inspect one of my little jobs.

i just think this whole part p thing is a load of ball and theres alot of guys out there part p registered who dont know main bonding from supplementary bonding

 

[egginyourface]

another question i have, once im a fully approved installer can i give new installation certs to jobs done by other sparks? is it acceptable that i go visit the job 3 or 4 times over the duration of the install to be sure everything is being erected in the correct manor, and cables routed in safe zones and sign off at the end?

 

[brucelee]

hi mate
to do what your suggesting you would have to use a multiple signature EIC they would have to sign for design and construction and once approved you would sign for the inspection and testing

 

[IQ Electrical]

another question i have, once im a fully approved installer can i give new installation certs to jobs done by other sparks? is it acceptable that i go visit the job 3 or 4 times over the duration of the install to be sure everything is being erected in the correct manor, and cables routed in safe zones and sign off at the end?

Are you talking about actually notifying the work?

If so, the answer is you can only notify work carried out by yourself or another member of your organisation.

 

[WayneL]

another question i have, once im a fully approved installer can i give new installation certs to jobs done by other sparks? is it acceptable that i go visit the job 3 or 4 times over the duration of the install to be sure everything is being erected in the correct manor, and cables routed in safe zones and sign off at the end?

Obviously, there is nothing physically stopping you doing this.

BUT

It's your name on the certificates when the poo hits the fan....... and I'm pretty sure that if the scheme operator found out you were doing it, they'd bin you sharpish.

 

[egginyourface]

yes i do mean notifying the work.

no need to be so dramatic... i wouldnt go giving a new install cert to random sparks. i would have to have seen previous jobs of theres or worked with them in the past. if i was to issue a cert for another sparks work i would be sure to check the work at key stages and the final test would be thorough as ever. and as i said earlier my inspection would be 10x better than the crap labc issue you with

what do you registered sparks charge for a eic on completion of say 3 bedroom rewire..£250-350??

 

[WayneL]

yes i do mean notifying the work.

no need to be so dramatic... i wouldnt go giving a new install cert to random sparks. i would have to have seen previous jobs of theres or worked with them in the past. if i was to issue a cert for another sparks work i would be sure to check the work at key stages and the final test would be thorough as ever. and as i said earlier my inspection would be 10x better than the crap labc issue you with

what do you registered sparks charge for a eic on completion of say 3 bedroom rewire..£250-350??

It's a bit hard to put a price on something you're not supposed to do.

You are signing the EIC, stating that you are responsible for it's design, construction and I&T - so you will be lying and possibly commiting fraud.

You might as well ask how much we charge to pinch someones car!!

By the way - they could notify the job cheaper than the prices you're guessing at.

 

[egginyourface]

ok, i see what your saying,,,its down to my own conciounse.

what i would like to know is what is the going rate for a eic on a job you've done yourself, london prices

 

[Geoffsd]

What are you - stupid or just a wind-up?

The certificate is part of the job.

You cannot do a job without issuing a certificate and you cannot issue a certificate without doing the job and you cannot do either without being registered or informing the LABC before you start otherwise you will end up with egg on your face.

 

[WayneL]

lol

 

[egginyourface]

no mate, im not stoopid, i know the cert is part of the job! but that is the part not alot of sparks out there can do! so obviously you charge the client for this service or factor the cost of providing a EIC cert into the job for the client for your service!! im asking what you charge to inspect and test finished job!