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[SolarCity]

I*have tried to disagree in the past with Alan Sugar, not directly as I have never had the pleasure, that engineers never make good business men. I have to say now many of you have demonstrated he does have a valid point.

Bill

I find it very odd that you should bring the name of Alan Sugar into this. What does a true entrepreneur do? Wait around twiddling his thumbs? Or does he develop his business to suit the market trends?

Congratulations on winning your electrical work. Being such a master businessman you have obviously anticipated the swell of electricians all coming your way to take the work back off you, haven't you? I think you'll find that the real motivated and driven tradesmen moved into the PV business - this may have given your company room to breathe but a lot of us are coming back and it will be a pleasure to win the work off you.

 

[colshaws]

I thought this forum was here to assist other people within the trade not to critisis or even gloat when others are going through difficult times, may be you had forsight to see the P.V boom would not last but I would have hoped this site was here to assist others through this not and to run them down. If that is not your way then I suggest you take your comments elsewhere.

 

[moggy1968]

If you don't have the balls to be accountable for what you say then you shouldn't say it.
Hiding behind anonimity is the cowards way

 

[End of Solar]

BiggsSolar, why do you find it odd that I mention an Alan Sugar quote when talking about the strengths of a business, maybe you too missed the point entirely. A true entrepreneur moves quickly and does not try and change what is already set in stone, something that has been discussed on here frequently.

Yes there will be a swell of electricians, I may be taking some of them on, I need to at the moment. As for any competition, I am all for a competitive market, it's what keeps me going. Just don't anticipate electricians ringing my customers saying 'remember me, I was the guy who let you down last year' and getting in front of me, can you?

It wasn't just the motivated and driven that got into the solar industry, it was also the opportunist and you don't just win back work with enthusiasm.
I can't see how this all gave me room to breathe, it seems you think that I had a crap business 2 years ago and once all the enthusiastic electricians went entrepenereural I had a good business, now that they are all back I will slip away. It does not work like that. As I have already mentioned, I too fit solar so have grown my business as many here have, so I have always been able to breathe quite nicely thank you.

 

[End of Solar]

If you don't have the balls to be accountable for what you say then you shouldn't say it.
Hiding behind anonimity is the cowards way

Post your address on here then

 

[moggy1968]

I am easilly traceable through my user name, thats why I use it.

 

[SRE]

Call me optimistic but I still think there's an argument to be had about the C rating which is what will kill pv in April. So I think all this doom and gloom is a little premature.

End of Solar - I don't know what your motivation is but if you've watched the forum as you say you have then you'll know that it's a source of education, information and support. If you can't be bothered to enter into the spirit of the forum, perhaps you shouldn't bother at all.

Smug condescension really ****es me off :32:

 

[End of Solar]

I thought this forum was here to assist other people within the trade not to critisis or even gloat when others are going through difficult times, may be you had forsight to see the P.V boom would not last but I would have hoped this site was here to assist others through this not and to run them down. If that is not your way then I suggest you take your comments elsewhere.

If people are run down by my comments then they do it themselves without reading fully, contemplating what is written and then judging. That is proven by the first reply being within 10 minutes. My comments were put on here to put into plain words what is being avoided on here, the elephant in the room as it were. If people want to get offended by my comments that is up to them, if they want to get run down by what I have to say then that is weak. If you read it carefully you will see there is advice along with the criticism, it's up to you lot to see it. I am sorry I had to put my points across so forcefully but it needed saying.

 

[moggy1968]

no it didn't.
but thank you so much for your advice, I so needed it. If only I knew who you were if ever I needed really great advice again in the future I could contact you!!

 

[End of Solar]

I am easilly traceable through my user name, thats why I use it.

Just like me then. My first name is Bill, that is all you have to know, that is more than what most people include who have been a wee bit nasty to me, but you don't see me wanting more details, only yourself who expected me to reveal my identity. In what way, name, address?

 

[moggy1968]

your username doesn't make you traceable, neither does bill, your still hiding.

 

[SRE]

You can't really complain about people being "a wee bit nasty" when the tone and content of your post kicked it all off.

 

[End of Solar]

You can't really complain about people being "a wee bit nasty" when the tone and content of your post kicked it all off.

I didn't complain

 

[End of Solar]

your username doesn't make you traceable, neither does bill, your still hiding.

So are you

 

[SolarCity]

BiggsSolar, why do you find it odd that I mention an Alan Sugar quote when talking about the strengths of a business, maybe you too missed the point entirely. A true entrepreneur moves quickly and does not try and change what is already set in stone, something that has been discussed on here frequently.

If you honestly think that Alan Sugar would have simply shrugged and moved on to something else then you really don't know the man.

It wasn't just the motivated and driven that got into the solar industry, it was also the opportunist and you don't just win back work with enthusiasm.

True, a lot of opportunists got into solar as well - but this isn't the majority. The kind of people that can move their business in another direction are kind of people that can move their business back again. They will be ringing your customers and they will be winning the work.

I can't see how this all gave me room to breathe, it seems you think that I had a crap business 2 years ago

You said it. Your business grew after the other electrician's moved on to fitting solar.

The truth is, and I truly wish it wasn't the case, that price is the number one factor in winning electrical work. You may be winning that electrical contract now for £10k, but in a couple of months time you'll be priced out by the £9k sparks. If you think that loyalty from your customer is going to negate that issue then you're deluded.