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Sorry - we are having a few issues with the edit option and I cannot add the vid... so had to post again to provide vid', this is the same one I posted in the main EU debate thread.



[video=youtube;CoyM-g1DS4U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoyM-g1DS4U[/video]
 
Not sure I understand this comment!

That was meant for darkwood. I think he took me up wrong initially. If Britain leave the EU the free trade is going to stop. It has to. Britain will not be as competitive then. The large multinationals will not look as favorably on uk as a country in the EU to set up manufacturing plants. Why would they? It's happening already. The British government are setting aside 60 billion for a recession if they leave.

That said what would I know. I'm only being told what to believe.
 
That was meant for darkwood. I think he took me up wrong initially. If Britain leave the EU the free trade is going to stop. It has to. Britain will not be as competitive then. The large multinationals will not look as favorably on uk as a country in the EU to set up manufacturing plants. Why would they? It's happening already. The British government are setting aside 60 billion for a recession if they leave.

That said what would I know. I'm only being told what to believe.

So you think that the German car manufacturers are going to stop selling to the UK?

That is ridiculous.

The UK buys far more from the EU than we sell to them. That is a FACT.

If they put tariffs on our products, we will put tariffs on them and that will bring in revenue!
 
That was meant for darkwood. I think he took me up wrong initially. If Britain leave the EU the free trade is going to stop. It has to. Britain will not be as competitive then. The large multinationals will not look as favorably on uk as a country in the EU to set up manufacturing plants. Why would they? It's happening already. The British government are setting aside 60 billion for a recession if they leave.

That said what would I know. I'm only being told what to believe.

I know what side your on here but just disagree with your perception of free trade ending if we leave, just check out who has free trade with the EU and you will find a lot of countries not even in Europe do and some are way down the list regarding Economy size, they don't have tarriffs, free movement but crucially have good angles to barter with, if we left we almost certainly would hold such a position, that and the fact we would no longer be shackled to trade limitations across the world been outside the EU which means we can use competition of other markets to reduce the costs we buy goods from the EU. As it stands we are in a EU trade ring that give trade presidence to EU members against that of the rest of the world so if we find a better deal outside the EU that directly effects an EU member than the EU forces tarriffs on that import or blocks us from trading, we recently lost a good export deal for farmers to Canada but because France said they might loose out the EU blocked the deal.

The EU is a self vested entity so determined to ringfence its own economy that its now forced its member to trade more internally which drops out external competition and as a consequence see's the cost of products rise and quality fall, even if a tarriff was applied when we left, this would quickly be absorbed by the fall in prices as we can import NZ lamb without forced tarriffs thus the EU would have to reduce price to compensate... like I said, its basic marketing and goverments can only block it and set tarrifs, they cannot control it as that's the consumers position, the UK wants to trade world wide without limits but the EU elite blocks us at every pass, we only have limited external trade.
We already have on the table some post Brexit deals that are worth multi-billions like India and with the forced tarriffs been dropped if we so desire our existing imports from the rest of the world would see extra trade.

Just step back one minute and remember what Cameron promised then look at what he is threatening, scaremongering now etc - he said that if he didn't come back with a deal he wanted he would vote for OUT, the fact that he didn't is here nor there but the point I'm making is if it was such a destructive move to leave the EU then why would he ever suggest he would vote out or even give us the referendum in the first place, this in itself shows you why all these predictions of doom and recession are BS - the actual report said that leaving the EU would see a little dip in our economy which is well within the limits of our what the treasury allow for in normal fluxuations, I agree that this will happen as markets adjust and won't last too long due to economical position - what Cameron turned this into was the word recession to put fear into people then we are now getting fantasy figures of 30billion hole and income tax rises all of which cannot be predicted and even his own goverment has said they wouldn't allow a tax increase.

Leave campaign has a lot of momentum.
Remain realise this and are panicing thus the claims are getting more and more rediculous - considering Cameron a few years ago expressed that Britain would be perfectly fine on its own and that the EU were taking too many of the UK's powers, its really funny to see him do the biggest U-Turn in his Career and preach that the UK Economy would almost certainly suffer massively - he is one guy that if we leave could go down in history as the man that forced the EU to abandon its plan of a Super-state as the knock on effects could see the EU unravel
 
totally agree. the \IN campaign are trying to win over the electorate with scaremongering. i just hope that the great unwashed marxist left can't be bothered to vote.
 
I agree with a lot of what is being said. Norway etc have trade deals with the EU but they have to pay for that and have no seat at the table so to speak.
As an Irishman it is worrying times though. Our biggest trade is by far the UK and we have no political heavy weights to negotiate after exit. Who in Europe really gives a damn about a rock in the middle of the Atlantic. I work on both sides of the border here which could potentially turn into a nightmare. We do share a land border like it or not.

My biggest concern is I'm off to legoland with the family and I'm not sure when to buy sterling. Lol. Should I wait till after the vote.
 
I agree with a lot of what is being said. Norway etc have trade deals with the EU but they have to pay for that and have no seat at the table so to speak.
As an Irishman it is worrying times though. Our biggest trade is by far the UK and we have no political heavy weights to negotiate after exit. Who in Europe really gives a damn about a rock in the middle of the Atlantic. I work on both sides of the border here which could potentially turn into a nightmare. We do share a land border like it or not.

My biggest concern is I'm off to legoland with the family and I'm not sure when to buy sterling. Lol. Should I wait till after the vote.
just buy lego. it's an international currency. toys are toys, in or out. :77:
 
I agree with a lot of what is being said. Norway etc have trade deals with the EU but they have to pay for that and have no seat at the table so to speak.
As an Irishman it is worrying times though. Our biggest trade is by far the UK and we have no political heavy weights to negotiate after exit. Who in Europe really gives a damn about a rock in the middle of the Atlantic. I work on both sides of the border here which could potentially turn into a nightmare. We do share a land border like it or not.

My biggest concern is I'm off to legoland with the family and I'm not sure when to buy sterling. Lol. Should I wait till after the vote.

If the EEC had stayed as the EEC and not mutated into the EU with the disastrous Euro this vote wouldn't be necessary.
 
correct me if i'm wrong, but ROI joined and had a honeymoon period where everything was fine and they prospered, but now that the EU have got their claws in, it's all gone ---- up.
 
correct me if i'm wrong, but ROI joined and had a honeymoon period where everything was fine and they prospered, but now that the EU have got their claws in, it's all gone ---- up.

What are you basing that on?

I would think more countries have had honeymoon periods on our back than vice versa. We joined the same day as UK.
 

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