EV charging point course?

[markythesparky]

There’s a subsidy for the charge point,as above.
There are also subsidies for the purchase of certain electric vehicles.
These are two separate things.

There are requirements for the grant, one is that the customer either has or has signed a purchase agreemtn to get, a car that is one of the approved vehicles. In this case the customer will not get the grant. This need to be evidenced in the paperwork that goes to the government in order to claim the grant.

 

[markythesparky]

There’s a subsidy for the charge point,as above.
There are also subsidies for the purchase of certain electric vehicles.
These are two separate things.

There are requirements for the grant, one is that the customer either has or has signed a purchase agreemtn to get, a car that is one of the approved vehicles. In this case the customer will not get the grant. This need to be evidenced in the paperwork that goes to the government in order to claim the grant.

You dont need to do a course. Its no different to installing a cu in a shed. Put it on a rod. You need to notify both building control and the DNO.
You learn little on these courses. You are better off contacting the companies such as rolec and ev box and going on a free training day.
Its quite a bit of money for something he can not yet use. So why not just put a cable in ready so that when the time comes he can have it connected in cu then fixed to the charger. You can out the rod in ready too if you like.

You don’t need to notify the DNO, you need to ask them if you can install it. And this is only for charge point of 32a or above. This is so that they can keep an eye on the loads for the local network. A 16a unit does not require the DNO to asked if it can be installed.

There is more to it than just sticking a spike in. Paperwork is horrendous.

 

[markythesparky]

Why not just install a 16amp radial with a socket outlet so it’s useful until he gets an electric car.

How would you protect against a DC fault in the car?

 

[markythesparky]

as unless the dno confirm its tns back to the transformer, which they never do around here you must assume it is pme and 9 times out of 10 its not within the checklist to use the pme so need to put a rod in, come 18th they are all on a rod regardless.

As for notifying DNO there is a form you fill out and send to energy networks association or direct to the dno in your area. they supposedly need to know about the load. seems daft as its no more than an oven

It’s an additional load to the oven on the network supply and more often that not the EV will be used when most people come home from work (which will be from 5pm onwards) and around which time everyone has an oven on!

 

[simpson93]

How would you protect against a DC fault in the car?

I’m saying use it as a power outlet in general.
You can also plug your car in with a 13amp plug in some cases.

Replace for a unit once a car has been ordered.

 

[markythesparky]

I’m saying use it as a power outlet in general.
You can also plug your car in with a 13amp plug in some cases.

Replace for a unit once a car has been ordered.

You can but the EV charging points use a DC sensitive RCD to protect against the DC faults associated with the charging.

But you don’t learn much on these courses!

 

[simpson93]

You can but the EV charging points use a DC sensitive RCD to protect against the DC faults associated with the charging.

But you don’t learn much on these courses!

Don’t fully understand, do you mean inside the charging unit there would be an additional dc rcd ?


Was looking into doing the course myself next month with niceic £180 day course.

 

[markythesparky]

Don’t fully understand, do you mean inside the charging unit there would be an additional dc rcd ?

Was looking into doing the course myself next month with niceic £180 day course.

The Rolec units have a DC sensitive RCD inside.

Just to allay some other posts, you will not get Rolec Approved unless you do a course like this. You will also not get EVHS or WCS Approved either which means you cannot offer your customer the grant.

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

There are requirements for the grant, one is that the customer either has or has signed a purchase agreemtn to get, a car that is one of the approved vehicles. In this case the customer will not get the grant. This need to be evidenced in the paperwork that goes to the government in order to claim the grant.


You don’t need to notify the DNO, you need to ask them if you can install it. And this is only for charge point of 32a or above. This is so that they can keep an eye on the loads for the local network. A 16a unit does not require the DNO to asked if it can be installed.

There is more to it than just sticking a spike in. Paperwork is horrendous.

I install ev chargers for both domestic and commercial customers in my area.Have OLEV approval for evbox and rolec. Thankfully OLEV are now moving to the digital world, the old OLEV forms were a pain in the proverbial. I expect the grants will reduce at the back end of next year unless the government replenish the fund or extend the current funding scheme.

 

[markythesparky]

I install ev chargers for both domestic and commercial customers in my area.Have OLEV approval for evbox and rolec. Thankfully OLEV are now moving to the digital world, the old OLEV forms were a pain in the proverbial. I expect the grants will reduce at the back end of next year unless the government replenish the fund or extend the current funding scheme.

I’d agree with you. It’ll go the same way as PV.

 

[rapparee]

It’s an additional load to the oven on the network supply and more often that not the EV will be used when most people come home from work (which will be from 5pm onwards) and around which time everyone has an oven on!

If everyone had an EV car the Distribution Network would collapse. We don't have the infrastructure in place for everyone to drive an EV.

 

[Dave OCD]

If everyone had an EV car the Distribution Network would collapse. We don't have the infrastructure in place for everyone to drive an EV.

I wouldn't mind betting it's not far off that already.

 

[markythesparky]

If everyone had an EV car the Distribution Network would collapse. We don't have the infrastructure in place for everyone to drive an EV.

And this is exactly why you cannot just install the 32a units without consultation. The network will fail if this takes off with any gusto! This make a mockery of the whole situation. The inference is that if the DNO feels that the network will be compromised, then they will refuse the installation of the EV pod. And yet the government (or EU) is pushing these vehicles!

Amazing!

 

[ThatMatt72]

In the future,they may be charged by inserting your rubbish,down a small chute...

(2 points for whoever gets the film reference)

Back to the future. Is it too late to claim my 2 points?

 

[littlespark]

Too late. It was mentioned in post #7