Existing Consumer Unit close to vertical waste pipe

[westward10]

Says ir is high on sockets what is that all about?

 

[Tom256]

so i have finally received the EICR report today. So there are only 5 off C2 findings.

One is the distance of the consumer unit from the waste pipe.
C2 "consumer to near waste pipe " << is all he has written on the report.

So it is the 'Consumer' too near the waste pipe (yes I corrected his typo) , well stop standing so close then. Still not a C2

 

[Tom256]

Says ir is high on sockets what is that all about?

I say that and figured ir = Insulation resistance, guess not?

 

[westward10]

Item 2 - nonsense
Item 3 - if out of the zones nonsense however they may not be suitable for the environment
Item 4 - no idea what that means
Item 5 - probably no continuity on r2 so that's okay
Item 6 - no idea what that means

As above what is the Code 1?

 

[Netzero1967]

Item 2 - nonsense
Item 3 - if out of the zones nonsense however they may not be suitable for the environment
Item 4 - no idea what that means
Item 5 - probably no continuity on r2 so that's okay
Item 6 - no idea what that means

As above what is the Code 1?

Code 1 is he could not find earthing rod from consumer unit.

Description Quantity Unit Price (£) VAT (%) VAT (£) Total (£)
1 bathroom lights and extractor fan repair
2 sockets - repair investigate fault and repair
3 lounge lights installation
4 ring sockets on earthing fault
5 oil new bonding supply
6 fuseboard installation, relocation fuseboard & new tt ststem

so planning to so all the remedial work. Not with him. He want £1,700 for everything, which seems high. Going to replace the consumer unit, just not relocate it.

 

[Tom256]

Code 1 is he could not find earthing rod from consumer unit.

Description Quantity Unit Price (£) VAT (%) VAT (£) Total (£)
1 bathroom lights and extractor fan repair
2 sockets - repair investigate fault and repair
3 lounge lights installation
4 ring sockets on earthing fault
5 oil new bonding supply
6 fuseboard installation, relocation fuseboard & new tt ststem

so planning to so all the remedial work. Not with him. He want £1,700 for everything, which seems high. Going to replace the consumer unit, just not relocate it.

Not being able to find an earth rod is NOT a C1
There may not be an Earth 'rod' even IF it is a TT system, and it could well be, yet I say 'IF' because of the observations [for what they are] so far posted and what has not been picked up.

There is a lot I could say on this and to be honest I am holding back because:
1. Your original question is answered with reasons and regulation
2. I can feel myself becoming angry with having to sample yet more of this incompetence that is a cancer within the industry.

What I am pleased to say is you will be looking for some other contractor who, if it were I, would rip up this 'report' and start from fresh before touching anything

 

[Netzero1967]

The report is nonsense and he does not know what he is doing. The installation could be fine , may not be, may not be and have nothing to do with what he has 'garbled out'.
I have been inspecting for a long time and what you have SIr is not uncommon and quite a disgusting stain on this industry I love and have pride in.

The inspection is conducted against the current edition of BS7671 if it complies with BS 7671 there would be no C2 codings; that and it cannot be satisfactory with C1, C2 or F.I.

As for the wording on those codes - oh dear!
I could go through them all, subjective nonsense, example point 6. What reading is high? What does he mean by 'high'?

What is the C1 ? - what was done at the time of the inspection to make this C1 safe?

I certainly would be very concened about letting this person touch the installation

Can I ask if you have any electrical experience / background? You seem to have some insights.

I am an engineer. but not an electrical engineer. I think he has been evasive, to ensure he gets the work. I wouldnt touch him with abarge pole.

 

[westward10]

Can you show the Report with personal details redacted?

 

[Netzero1967]

Report attached.

 

[westward10]

The observations don't include the Code 1 and multiple Code 3s on the inspection schedule.

 

[Netzero1967]

The observations don't include the Code 1 and multiple Code 3s on the inspection schedule.

1.3 Condition of distributor's earthing arrangement C1
3.1. Presence and condition of distributor's earthing arrangement (542.1.2.1; 542.2.2) C1

further down report.

 

[westward10]

They should be itemised in Section K.
What is wrong with the lounge lights it makes no mention of those.

 

[Tom256]

Report attached.

Just very quickly looked and stunned

Figures are nonsense, data entered is wrong everywhere I look. He has NO understanding of what he is doing. None.
From the intake information , protective devices details and on and on .

TT system suggests the distributor will not provide the means of earthing for the consumer. By way of but one example, this can be because the distributor cannot guarantee the earth connection. This is common where the intake supply is by way of LV overhead supply which perhaps you have.
As such there is no Distributors Earthing arrangment to code against!

 

[PS Electrics]

Report attached.

Utter Garbage!

 

[Netzero1967]

They should be itemised in Section K.
What is wrong with the lounge lights it makes no mention of those.

They were broken by last tenant. so going to replace them.