existing neutral fault on ring circuit

[hairy g string]

away to install a new ring circuit and lighting circuit to bedroom conversion but there will be minor works involved in pulling back existing circuits to there origin .the reason for new circuits is because i know there is a neutral to earth fault on existing ring circuit.i know this because there is a split rcd board and sockets are on non rcd side .have informed customer that because i am altering existing sockets i need to investigate fault.this could be an appliance but judging by state of other wiring i fear a damaged cable.can i alter existing circuit and note on test sheet that there is a fault .any practical advice would be helpfull.decoration is a major issue as is access to integrated appliances etc.

 

[Octopus]

Not sure WHY you are telling the customer you have to work on a circuit you are not touching, or have I misunderstood what you are doing?

 

[hairy g string]

there is an existing socket on a partition that is being removed so i have to pull it back to nearest sockets which will involve a minor works on a faulty circuit.sorry never made it clear before

 

[Octopus]

there is an existing socket on a partition that is being removed so i have to pull it back to nearest sockets which will involve a minor works on a faulty circuit.sorry never made it clear before

That still doesn't make sense to me

 

[andyb]

Doesn't make sense to me either Hairy,

You say you Know there is a fault because 'there is a split rcd board and sockets are on non rcd side' have you tested the circuit or just assuming?

 

[hairy g string]

sorry mate can't make it any clearer.would you alter a circuit that had a neutral to earth fault with out further investigation .bearing in mind the fault could be any where.i only want to remove 1 x socket from partion to allow building works to continue .this means completing a minor works form for an altered circuit.

 

[Octopus]

sorry mate can't make it any clearer.would you alter a circuit that had a neutral to earth fault with out further investigation .bearing in mind the fault could be any where.i only want to remove 1 x socket from partion to allow building works to continue .this means completing a minor works form for an altered circuit.

You are altering the circuit, so need to make it AMD 3 compliant, so no you can't leave the fault in place.

 

[davesparks]

You say the reason for installing the new circuit is because the existing circuit has a fault on it. So are you planning disconnecting the faulty circuit and replacing it completely or ignoring a potentially very dangerous fault and leaving it in place?

 

[andyb]

sorry mate can't make it any clearer.would you alter a circuit that had a neutral to earth fault with out further investigation .bearing in mind the fault could be any where.i only want to remove 1 x socket from partion to allow building works to continue .this means completing a minor works form for an altered circuit.

I agree with that, it's just that you say you know there's a fault because the the circuit is wired to the non rcd side of the board.

Unless I'm reading it wrong.

 

[7029 dave]

I agree with that, it's just that you say you know there's a fault because the the circuit is wired to the non rcd side of the board.

Unless I'm reading it wrong.

Think he is saying there IS an NE fault on circuit, hands on it, well he will have to clear the fault.

 

[hairy g string]

thanks.

 

[andyb]

Think he is saying there IS an NE fault on circuit, hands on it, well he will have to clear the fault.

I was reading it wrong then.

Then my advice would be that the fault needs to be dealt with before making alterations to an existing circuit.

 

[hairy g string]

how could i disconnect the faulty circuit they would have no power to rest of house.my plan is to open up sockets and find faulty leg possible turning ring into 2 x radials depending on split .or pulling new leg between sockets.and yes a full ir has been done on circuit.

 

[GMES]

If there is a fault on the circuit then fix it don't just leave, I'm guessing that's why it's been shoved onto the non rcd side by the last Budgie that didn't know how to use a test meter.

 

[Farmelectrics]

Fix the fault