fcu from cooker circuit

[valleybilly]

if you extend the dishwasher lead to the cooker outlet unconventionaly i know / then by use of the 13 amp plug u have discrimination. woollies n ars come to mind

 

[westward10]

Are you likely to use the cooking appliances and dishwasher at the same time.

 

[pieman]

Are you likely to use the cooking appliances and dishwasher at the same time.

Unlikely but possible, however I have never in the time I have had the cooker had 4 hobs, grill and oven running at the same time. Usualy at most doing a sunday roast would be 2 hobs at 14.16amps and the oven at 7.5amps. The cable is clipped in an uninsulated ceiling and wall on a run of 4-5 meters. I'm new to this so respect and will follow the advice of if its a risk don't do it. Will have to think of another way, just didn't want to get into ripping tiles ect off if I didn't need to.

 

[westward10]

Unlikely but possible, however I have never in the time I have had the cooker had 4 hobs, grill and oven running at the same time. Usualy at most doing a sunday roast would be 2 hobs at 14.16amps and the oven at 7.5amps. The cable is clipped in an uninsulated ceiling and wall on a run of 4-5 meters. I'm new to this so respect and will follow the advice of if its a risk don't do it. Will have to think of another way, just didn't want to get into ripping tiles ect off if I didn't need to.

Why not temporarily plug it into the cooker control unit socket and see what happens, if you have no problem you have a solution, go with your original method.

 

[pieman]

Why not temporarily plug it into the cooker control unit socket and see what happens, if you have no problem you have a solution, go with your original method.

If I have a problem I assume its just an mcb overload rather than cable overload issue? Thanks for your help. I'm new to this forum and everyone has been very helpful

 

[pieman]

Probably should have added its a 3 amp slimline dishwasher as well.

 

[Des 56]

If you were designing for the appliances as a new install,you would be wise to follow the guides that recommend a dedicated circuit for the cooker,with a separate radial and perhaps off the local ring to the dishwasher

However, you are working with what is existing and you may consider the need to deviate from those recommendations that are in the guides,if you can still ensure safety

The use of a dedicated circuit for a cooker is a recomendation,follow that recomendation and you won't ever go far wrong,however,a recomendation does not mean"You must"

The first thought would be that the 6mm radial will most probably have already been de rated by the use of a 32 amp mcb at the supply end,depending on installation method,overload may not then be a problem (other than a nuisance factor if the mcb happened to trip occasionally if it was overloaded for a period of time)

Your opening suggestion,although not a standard arrangement appears to be a suitablee compromise,however,the cooker control could be changed to a straight DP isolator,doing that will reduce the possible unknown extra load from the existing cooker control integral socket

In short,if the posted information given is correct,it would not cause me nightmares if it was necessary to adapt such an arrangement to my own kitchen

 

[sparksburnout]

19A for the hob/oven after diversity, plus max 9A for the dishwasher = 28A top whack whats wrong with that on a 32A 6mm?? Plus Westies right they probably never on together. I wouldn't worry about the Scam assessor the last one I had also had a bit of common sense.