Feel like I'm being used

[lofty84]

Just a quick question really how much is the going rate for connecting a shower up (the cable was already run so I just had to terminate it) installing a bathroom light and pull cord and wiring up a switched fused spur for a towel radiator, next was putting in an earthrod to earth these 2 new circuits and then installing a new 2 way board for the circuits, I had to move the meter do new tails and take a new earth to the water pipe, I just wondered how much one would charge for that ad I got the handsome sum of 57 pounds which when I minus my petrol money a 60 mile round trip probably leaves me with 50 quid if that. How much would he have charged do u think min

Thankyou

 

[lofty84]

I guess I work for him as he's usually always there but I was left to do that job on my own so that time I was a subby. He does say its best to be a subby but I don't know if he's spinning me a yarn

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I don't work for him all the time just when he had a job come in which isnt that often which might say something

 

[lofty84]

Pc If you want to add anything please feel free mate. Admitably I've become wound up by people saying I've been well and truly used. I'm annoyed with how I've been treated as I'm basically being paid as a labourer only getting to do the rubbish dirty parts of the job. To date I am 2230 and 17th eddition with a couple of years decent experience in the domestic sector.

 

[lofty84]

I liked peter and his mate the were really good to work with but there comes a point when u think hang on and getting £57 a day for doing all that (and being ttold to move the meter, which is apparently illegal) was it . now I just feel like I have been beig used for cheap labour as and when I was needed because I'm a reliable enthusiatic hard worker. Its not as tho i have learnt anything new other then how to roll up insulation and haven't been able to do anything other then the dirty stages of first fixing where I would rip out all the old cables which probably cover my wages anyway.

 

[lofty84]

 

[Amp David]

Quite a lot of the time, these clowns who advertise for sparks to sub out to them, either under quote their jobs to get the work or don't have a clue regards a proper rate for a subbie. They're sat in the world of what you pay them is their take home pay.

They want to pay you an equivalent rate to an employee but don't want to have the responsibilities of all that goes with employing people.

My last enquiry regards subbing out to someone highlighted that they were paying 120 a day CIS. Then they told me I was having to pay my own tax too.
I was always under the impression that with CIS the contracter was to take 20% for your tax. This just goes to show that most of em think they are big boys in the electrical contracting world, where really they ain't a clue.

God only knows how they manage to get by with regard HMRC etc.

 

[Octopus]

Your "position" re wages and tax sounds very dodgy. If the HMRC come knocking, a defence of "ignorance" will not be one they will believe - be warned.

For Surrey your rate is FAR too low.

 

[Guitarist]

lofty, if you moved a meter without knowing it is illegal then I would say that you really aren't ready to go out on your own at this time. You will not always be able to ask on the forum when on a job, and trust me, there will be many times when you will need to call on experience to make a decision. I think the builder realises this, which is why he is giving you such a pittance.
Maybe there is an electrician in your area who would employ you to work with him at a decent, but reduced rate.

 

[JD6400]

To be honest Lofty , Guitarist just beat me to it .
At least you are getting paid , all be it poorly !
Their seems to be a fair few , far more qualified on here that can not even get one job in a month at the moment ! So it maybe best for you to just bite your lip and push for more money as and when you can ?

 

[lofty84]

He does deduct tax for me

 

[lofty84]

To be fair I've probably burnt those bridges, the problem with me is I get wound up very quickly

 

[Knobhead]

I’m sorry, but more fool you for doing it!

 

[Plonker 3]

He does deduct tax for me

I take it he gives you a wage slip, or CIS certificate then to show this?

 

[lofty84]

no although I do ask for one

 

[derek preece]

You need your CIS slips to claim your tax back at the end of the financial year, if he hasn't get them then chances are he is pocketing the money.

 

[Octopus]

oh dear, sounds like you'll be having fun with the "employer" and the tax man then!