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Been very busy on our firm,starting jobs & still not returned to any,god knows what mess they are in.
Had a subby go to one of the jobs,I wasn't there at the time,anyway I go back & basically lights are not connected to appropriate switching in rooms.
I definitely ain't putting it right,so meets this guy,he says I was told to put up the lights for you,I said yea,dont you test to see they are working correctly,no it's not what I was told to do.
Im I the only one who gets this ----.
 
I think its not a generation issue its a personal issue, im 24 and i certainly dont leave a job half arsed or leave circuits un-tested. My boss drilled 'use you initiative' into us as apprentices and ive been doing fine on my own whilst subbing. If anything i have met old boys who couldnt careless and are stubborn about passing on vital knowledge to younger sparks as its 'not my job'.
 
I think its not a generation issue its a personal issue, im 24 and i certainly dont leave a job half arsed or leave circuits un-tested. My boss drilled 'use you initiative' into us as apprentices and ive been doing fine on my own whilst subbing. If anything i have met old boys who couldnt careless and are stubborn about passing on vital knowledge to younger sparks as its 'not my job'.
I'm going to blow my own trumpet here......I know of and worked with plenty of "older" sparks and I run rings around them in terms of quality, productivity, attention to detail and knowledge.:confused:
 
I think its not a generation issue its a personal issue, im 24 and i certainly dont leave a job half arsed or leave circuits un-tested. My boss drilled 'use you initiative' into us as apprentices and ive been doing fine on my own whilst subbing. If anything i have met old boys who couldnt careless and are stubborn about passing on vital knowledge to younger sparks as its 'not my job'.

Agree with that. I've had lazy ******s working for me and I've had a number of very enthusiastic youngsters who have bucket loads of initiative. I think it's like common sense, it's amazing how many people just don't have it.
 
I think its not a generation issue its a personal issue, im 24 and i certainly dont leave a job half arsed or leave circuits un-tested. My boss drilled 'use you initiative' into us as apprentices and ive been doing fine on my own whilst subbing. If anything i have met old boys who couldnt careless and are stubborn about passing on vital knowledge to younger sparks as its 'not my job'.
Fair point however I've come across a few electricians in the past just come out of being a apprentice turn up in top of range work clothes all the latest drills etc. and site radio at full blast. Do a poor standard of work go home at 2.30 and leave the rest of us to sort the problems out .
 
I don't think you can tar all age groups with the same brush, mind you if I worked with Lee he might find himself up for murder:D
haha....I would love to get a big commercial job and organise a team off of here. Every one stops what they are up to and does it for one week. I think we would have a proper elite team....Or a case of too many chiefs :D
 
Fair point however I've come across a few electricians in the past just come out of being a apprentice turn up in top of range work clothes all the latest drills etc. and site radio at full blast. Do a poor standard of work go home at 2.30 and leave the rest of us to sort the problems out .

I sense jealousy on the work clothes and tools part, i get this constantly. I wear trousers with holster pockets with knee pads and a smart hoodie because i like to look smart and tidy not like an old tramp in blue jeans moaning about their wrecked knees because your a 'wimp if you wear kneepads' jog on!.

Just because people invest in themselves and buy kit to help improve there work and make themselves efficient doesn't mean "all the gear no idea". I find it annoying and embarrassing when people lack a full tool kit because they would rather ---- their wage down the boozer urninal than buy extensive kit. I never need to borrow someones tools because i saved and invested when i was an apprentice. I have a lot of nice tools that i have grafted for, just because i chose not to waste it on drink and nights out and i thought about my career doesnt mean i havent a clue!

Rant!
 
haha....I would love to get a big commercial job and organise a team off of here. Every one stops what they are up to and does it for one week. I think we would have a proper elite team....Or a case of too many chiefs :D
We'd get bu**er all done Lee.
 
I sense jealousy on the work clothes and tools part, i get this constantly. I wear trousers with holster pockets with knee pads and a smart hoodie because i like to look smart and tidy not like an old tramp in blue jeans moaning about their wrecked knees because your a 'wimp if you wear kneepads' jog on!.

Just because people invest in themselves and buy kit to help improve there work and make themselves efficient doesn't mean "all the gear no idea". I find it annoying and embarrassing when people lack a full tool kit because they would rather **** their wage down the boozer urninal than buy extensive kit. I never need to borrow someones tools because i saved and invested when i was an apprentice. I have a lot of nice tools that i have grafted for, just because i chose not to waste it on drink and nights out and i thought about my career doesnt mean i havent a clue!

Rant!
Not at all its peoples attitudes of doing a good job and giving a dam to the work they are doing .
 
I sense jealousy on the work clothes and tools part, i get this constantly. I wear trousers with holster pockets with knee pads and a smart hoodie because i like to look smart and tidy not like an old tramp in blue jeans moaning about their wrecked knees because your a 'wimp if you wear kneepads' jog on!.

just because i chose not to waste it on drink and nights out and i thought about my career doesnt mean i havent a clue!

Rant!

There was no need to have a go at me like that:eek::)
My jeans get washed every so often
Am going now for my usual couple of jars down the boozer, and I will have you know my knees are just fine :)
 
haha....I would love to get a big commercial job and organise a team off of here. Every one stops what they are up to and does it for one week. I think we would have a proper elite team....Or a case of too many chiefs :D

Put me down for it Lee, as long as you pay me travelling costs. :eek: :D
 

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