fire rated fittings in a new build

[Anthony S]

Approved document B, volume 1, page 59, table A1, section marked 3a.

Andy

Have a read of page 21 with regards linings because I can't copy and paste it

adequacy resist the spread of fire over the surfaces and have if ignited a rate of heat release or a rate of fire growth which is reasonable in the circumstances

 

[Andy78]

Andy

Have a read of page 21 with regards linings because I can't copy and paste it

adequacy resist the spread of fire over the surfaces and have if ignited a rate of heat release or a rate of fire growth which is reasonable in the circumstances

Its page 24 on my PDF where that is mentioned, but yes I suppose it does support the argument for reinstating fire resistance properties of ceilings.

 

[Anthony S]

Its page 24 on my PDF where that is mentioned, but yes I suppose it does support the argument for reinstating fire resistance properties of ceilings.

Andy

Ill pm you a link mate and then your be surprised

 

[Andy78]

Andy

Now read this

file:///C:/Users/user/Downloads/2005_14_spring_wiring_matters_installing_recessed_luminaires_in_ceilings.pdf

I can't. That's a link to a document on your PC I think.

 

[Anthony S]

nothing doing

 

[shanky887614]

why would you call your account on your computer user? its not Linux

 

[Anthony S]

why would you call your account on your computer user? its not Linux

I don't know what happened

 

[Andy78]

Andy

Ill pm you a link mate and then your be surprised

I looked up wiring matters 14 and didn't bother reading it to be honest. I'm not sure how a guidance document from 2005 can be relevant when debating the building regulations 2010.

 

[Anthony S]

I looked up wiring matters 14 and didn't bother reading it to be honest. I'm not sure how a guidance document from 2005 can be relevant when debating the building regulations 2010.

Why ? because it is not necessary to ‘box in’ luminaries or to use fire hoods for the purpose of restoring the fire resistance capability of ceilings which are not of fire compartment construction.

 

[Jay Sparks]

I have always fitted fire rated down lights where there is likely to be someone in the room above, in normal day to day living. i.e. if there is a bedroom/bathroom/office above the kitchen or living room. However, I wouldn't necessarily fit down lights in a bedroom/office if the room above was an unused or only used for storage attic/loft space. I can't remember a specific reg that says this, it's just what I was always told to do....good practice. It gives the person in the above room, the time to escape in case of a fire.


Jay

 

[Anthony S]

I have always fitted fire rated down lights where there is likely to be someone in the room above, in normal day to day living. i.e. if there is a bedroom/bathroom/office above the kitchen or living room. However, I wouldn't necessarily fit down lights in a bedroom/office if the room above was an unused or only used for storage attic/loft space. I can't remember a specific reg that says this, it's just what I was always told to do....good practice. It gives the person in the above room, the time to escape in case of a fire.


Jay

Smoke alarms would offer the best chance of escape in a dwelling with a stair case where the fire would spread up the stairs with in minutes.

 

[Andy78]

I looked up wiring matters 14 and didn't bother reading it to be honest. I'm not sure how a guidance document from 2005 can be relevant when debating the building regulations 2010.

Why ?

I'm not sure I can clarify that any further ?

 

[Anthony S]

I'm not sure I can clarify that any further ?

If you ever deal with Building Control ask them to clarify the meaning of fire compartment construction ie walls, floors, ceilings with regards a semi or terraced 2 storey dwelling and see what they say.

Ill leave it at that.

 

[Jay Sparks]

Smoke alarms would offer the best chance of escape in a dwelling with a stair case where the fire would spread up the stairs with in minutes.

Only if you heard it.lol
And smokes wont stop the spread of fire through a ceiling into the room above. Long before it go's up the stairs.....especially if the fire starts in the kitchen! In a lot of the houses round my way, you would have to go through the living room to get to the stairs. But, as you say, if they here the smokes in time, then fire rated fittings down stairs, gives the occupant some time to escape before the fire leaks through the ceiling, into the above room.

So having both fitted, gives the best chance of escape.

Jay

 

[Andy78]

If you ever deal with Building Control ask them to clarify the meaning of fire compartment construction ie walls, floors, ceilings with regards a semi or terraced 2 storey dwelling and see what they say.

I understand the meaning of a fire compartment, but that is a separate issue to the original quote I provided.