first full rewire

[kmatthews]

ive just done my 2330 exam and im thinking of re-wiring my house i know what ive got to do electrically but with regards to the paper work. i know i cant fill it in as i dont have my 2391 certs

once the house has been rewired do i have to then inform the council to inpect and test and do they send someone out

or can i imploy a spark with the write certs that can sign it off.

whats my options once ive re-wired it

cheers

 

[J@mes]

You can either get the council out to do it or get a scam/ scheme registered spark out to do it.

 

[kmatthews]

do you know how much each one charges about?

 

[SEC-Tom]

You can either get the council out to do it or get a scam/ scheme registered spark out to do it.

Many sparks wouldn't like to put there name on certs for people that they don't really know in my experiance, im not sure why if the testing all clears and is fine..

But as times are hard they might be desperate for some work. Desperate times call for desperate measures...

 

[kmatthews]

ive been told by people that the council charges 185 pound for the please of testing your work isthis about right?

 

[Graeme Harrold]

The cost varies from council to council, and I wouldnt be surprised to see the charges go up before long. You will have to notify BEFORE you start the work should you go down that route. As for the part P side, you will only get another spark to sign the work off with a PIR (officialy) as its doubtfull if you will find one willing to put their signature to an EIC.

 

[tuckermot]

how can a spark sign another sparks work off !!!!! part p states you can only sign your own work off !!! if thats true why do i pay £500 a year when i can bung my local spark a ton to do it for me ?

 

[kmatthews]

im not sure what the crack is ? if you are correct and you can only sign off your own work.

then why do you have to pay what ive just found out 166 pound to the local council for. what exactly do they do apart from robbing you of your money.

is that the only way i can get a electrical cert is by employing a spark to do the complete install and for him to test it?

the spark who came and had a look (not knowing i worked in electrics myself) said around 4k for it all thats a bit more than i was expecting since i could buy everything i need for 1200 quid

 

[GStueyXR]

dont you need 2391 to sign off others work ?

 

[lim88]

If you are a qualified electrician you are qualified to test your own work only, thats why test and inspect is part of the apprenticeship, so you should be able to test it yourself. I would agree that if you got another spark to test it they would do it as a periodic, as they wouldn't want to put there name to someone else's work unless they had a good reason.

I am going self employed and so have been looking into this a little bit.
If your not a member of the nic, napit or similar to comply to part p of the building regs you would need to inform the local building control before you start work and issue them with a copy of the test certificate on completion.

To stop them needing to send someone out you may have to join the councils competent persons register, which just means sending copies of your qualifications to them to prove you are capable of doing the work. Then they should only inspect the work if they decided there could be a problem.

At least thats how my council work it. The best thing to do would be to contact your council and ask them about what they require you to do for part p and if they have a competent persons register you can join.

Hope this helps you.

 

[TobyTheSpark]

Can you not sign your own work off if you have a nvq3 and 2330?

 

[lim88]

Can you not sign your own work off if you have a nvq3 and 2330?

yes when you are a qualified electrician (have gained nvq3 and 2330) you can sign off your own work. to sign off other work like a existing installation you need 2391

 

[adam.h]

So hang on, providing you can prove you are a competent to the local council you can be put on their register and not need them to come out and inspect your work, thus not needing to be part p registered?

 

[lim88]

So hang on, providing you can prove you are a competent to the local council you can be put on their register and not need them to come out and inspect your work, thus not needing to be part p registered?

yes.

if you notify the relevant councils building control before work starts and within 30 days of completion you are complying with part p of the building regs. it is written is a few different books (e.g a guide to test and inspect sat in front of me from the IEE) and my local building control have agreed with this.

Spoke to my local building control less than 24 hour ago about it, and they said if i send copies of my qualifications to them to show i an competent they would put me on the register and then would not need to inspect the work.

 

[adam.h]

Humm... I think I will ring mine today then. I have had them out a few times to inspect my work and all they do is.... actually he just copied my test sheets and that was it. lol