Fitting an LED Spot into a loft hatch?

[Penguin]

You fed a downlight with sy? How did you terminate it?

Whisk / stuffers / bandgo / wago.

As the loft hatch is moveable it requires more than just T&E.

 

[MJPD29]

Whisk / stuffers / bandgo / wago.

As the loft hatch is moveable it requires more than just T&E.

I would prefer flex in a domestic environment rather than sy which requires a proper brass gland to terminate and cores need sleeved. Using flex negates the need for both of these. The braid is utterly useless in this situation also.

 

[DPG]

Whisk / stuffers / bandgo / wago.

As the loft hatch is moveable it requires more than just T&E.

Not SY though surely. HO7 or pvc flex?

 

[westward10]

Of all flexible cords that come to mind SY must be the least flexible.

 

[Penguin]

Incredible that this needs to be related to an electrician through their customer - especially given how easily conductors slip out of those cheap push fit connectors.

Hi nicebutdim,
Please don’t use CHEAP push fit connectors.!
FLEX doesn’t connect well with Push Fit connectors ( hence why we use Feral's ).
Lever operated Wago may perform better.
But Feral crimping is more acceptable.

 

[DPG]

Hi nicebutdim,
Please don’t use CHEAP push fit connectors.!
FLEX doesn’t connect well with Push Fit connectors ( hence why we use Feral's ).
Lever operated Wago may perform better.
But Feral crimping is more acceptable.

You do realise there are push fit connectors that work with stranded cable right?

I'm sure nicebutdim does.

CAPS AND !!!! over the top punctuation here !!!!!

 

[Penguin]

Of all flexible cords that come to mind SY must be the least flexible.

SY gave the required mechanical protection of the movement from the loft hatch.!

20/25mm conduit wasn’t suitable in the space available.

Flex didn’t meet the mechanical movement of the operation of the loft access being operated over and over again. Also the fact that clumpy feet using the loaf steps made me want to possibly over engineer the requirement. Safety first.

 

[Penguin]

You do realise there are push fit connectors that work with stranded cable right?

I'm sure nicebutdim does.

CAPS AND !!!! over the top punctuation here !!!!!

Never wishing to offend, just to help.
But you did mention cheap push fits.

APOLOGISES.

 

[DPG]

Never wishing to offend, just to help.
But you did mention cheap push fits.

APOLOGISES.

I'm not sure I did. But fair enough.

 

[davesparks]

SY gave the required mechanical protection of the movement from the loft hatch.!

No it doesn't, SY is mechanically not very good at all. And for that apllication you need good flexibility which SY doesn't have.

Flex didn’t meet the mechanical movement of the operation of the loft access being operated over and over again.

Yes it does, it's flexible cable, the clue is in the name!

A decent rubber flex is far more suitable than SY, with the advantage that rubber flex will actually comply with UK product standards.

 

[mainline]

Hi nicebutdim,
Please don’t use CHEAP push fit connectors.!
FLEX doesn’t connect well with Push Fit connectors ( hence why we use Feral's ).
Lever operated Wago may perform better.
But Feral crimping is more acceptable.

Ferrules shouldn't be used for push fit connectors.

 

[Penguin]

No it doesn't, SY is mechanically not very good at all. And for that apllication you need good flexibility which SY doesn't have.


Yes it does, it's flexible cable, the clue is in the name!

A decent rubber flex is far more suitable than SY, with the advantage that rubber flex will actually comply with UK product standards.

On my first original inspection of the loft I noticed a number of mice and squirrel 🐿 traps.
There was evidence of 🐿 activity, so for that reason I over engineered the materials used.

I’m grateful for the lesson, and now understand that Flex, is flexible.

But possibly not as 🐿 tolerant as SY.

Would you agree?

 

[Penguin]

You do realise there are push fit connectors that work with stranded cable right?

I'm sure nicebutdim does.

CAPS AND !!!! over the top punctuation here !!!!!

Please send me a picture of a Push Fit connection unit, that used use with stranded flex.

 

[mainline]

On my first original inspection of the loft I noticed a number of mice and squirrel 🐿 traps.
There was evidence of 🐿 activity, so for that reason I over engineered the materials used.

I’m grateful for the lesson, and now understand that Flex, is flexible.

But possibly not as 🐿 tolerant as SY.

Would you agree?

SY cable is not suitable in fixed wiring applications that require compliance with British Standard 7671.

 

[DPG]

Please send me a picture of a Push Fit connection unit, that used use with stranded flex.

I've had far too many beers. Sorry.