Fitting wall lights with side cable access

[adaien]

Hi all,

I am planning to install wall lights such as these ones (LAP Bronx Outdoor Up & Down Wall Light Black - Screwfix - https://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-bronx-outdoor-up-down-wall-light-black/8627r) off an existing wall light by connecting them with a SWA cable clipped on the wall.

However, I can't figure out a way to feed the cable from the side with a clean solution that wouldn't invalidate the IP65 rating, rather than from the back as they've been designed.

A potential way would be to break through the mortar and feed the cable from behind through the mortar, but it doesn't seem very clean to me and I would prefer not to mess with the brickwork.

Has anyone ever installed wall lights on a daisy chain and come up with a solution?

Thanks everyone in advance

Alternatively, if you know of any website selling wall lights that can be fed from a side cable please do post them, I haven't seen them anywhere.

 

[SJD]

Do you really mean an connecting with SWA (i.e. armoured cable) which ought to be glanded, which you are never going to do into such a light fitting? If the cable is SWA, possibly terminate first into a Wiska box with appropriate outdoor SWA gland.

The LAP lights you link to are specified at IP44, not IP65 that you mention. If you need to bring in a surface (e.g. rubber) cable, sometimes you can site the light over a vertical mortar joint and just remove enough mortar for the cable to enter from below (not above) and into the housing via the rear hole.

 

[adaien]

My idea was to gland the SWA, but as you said I don't see a way to do it into that type of light fitting, hence the question. Do you suggest connecting the cable from the back of the Wiska box to the back of the light? It does make sense but I am not sure there's enough vertical mortar for leaving the wiska and entering the wall light (in the sense that one of the two would end up on the brick).

Is there any other way of connecting the wall lights?

 

[loz2754]

The only other way(s) would be to mount the light on top of a surface box to space it off the wall. Or make a wooden pattress to mount the light onto.
Or wire from inside the house, which is probably not an option.

 

[SJD]

My idea was to gland the SWA, but as you said I don't see a way to do it into that type of light fitting, hence the question. Do you suggest connecting the cable from the back of the Wiska box to the back of the light? It does make sense but I am not sure there's enough vertical mortar for leaving the wiska and entering the wall light (in the sense that one of the two would end up on the brick).

Possibly a Wiska 206 might be small enough, but I don't think it would fit mounted horizontally below the light. Possibly could be mounted to the side instead, on a horizontal mortar joint. In either case, not sure it would look that pretty.

32A Wiska 206 Junction Box LS0H 85 x 49 x 51mm - Black IP66/67 | Wiska (10109571)

As mentioned above, possibly some custom pattress?

Or choose a different light fitting!

 

[adaien]

Possibly a Wiska 206 might be small enough, but I don't think it would fit mounted horizontally below the light. Possibly could be mounted to the side instead, on a horizontal mortar joint. In either case, not sure it would look that pretty.

32A Wiska 206 Junction Box LS0H 85 x 49 x 51mm - Black IP66/67 | Wiska (10109571)

As mentioned above, possibly some custom pattress?

Or choose a different light fitting!

Yes, I realised the best thing would be to just fit a floodlight (LAP Weyburn Outdoor LED Floodlight Black 20W 2000lm - Screwfix - https://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-weyburn-outdoor-led-floodlight-black-20w-2000lm/812pg) as the cable would just enter a junction box through a gland.

Silly question, do you reckon 1000 lumen to light up a 5m x 5m area? Or 2000 lumen?