fixing heights domestic

[driverman]

Hi 2nd attempt writing this! As some of know wiring new house for family member. After great discussion / debate on another thread re those damn extractor fans with timers etc. I've decided to go with wall mounted 1g light switch outside each en suite (customers request as doesn't like pull switches) and the 3 pole isolation switch at low level 450mm as opposed to high level or above the door. Will that comply with BS7671 Regs? I'm going to use a fan whereby the manufacture will not insist on a 3amp fuse.
I'd already chopped in a deep box for a shaver point in 1 en suite at face height when the penny dropped that I had in fact installed it too high. I have now installed it at no higher than 1200mm. I take it height restrictions includes shaver points also.
Now for wall mounted TV points. Many wall mounted TV points to be installed, like a damn hotel! I've installed the boxes so as no higher than 1200mm. I would like to mount them a bit higher really so as to hide the boxes behind the wall mounted TV when installed. Your thoughts,experience appreciated.

 

[Guest77]

The whole job sounds like a right balls up to be honest, no planning and no idea of building or electrical regs, back to the drawing board I reckon, rethink the whole project again, Design is as important as the actual work being carried out.

 

[driverman]

Just because it's a newbuilds doesn't exclude it from any deviations........customers have their own idea of what they want and sometimes that conflicts with the regs.....

As for not wanting pull switches, why not go with sensors, saves kids leaving the bathroom lights on.

Fan iso switch in loft, seen it many times.....lazy option but you can't count for customers not wanting trunk or after install plastering.

Appreciate what your saying, but where do we draw the line to what customer wants and what the regs say we must do to comply BS7671 and or Building Regs.

 

[Plonker 3]

Appreciate what your saying, but where do we draw the line to what customer wants and what the regs say we must do to comply BS7671 and or Building Regs.

well all a electricians work has to comply with BS7671. If the customer in this instance wishes to argue with LABC over the height of accessories that's their problem but it may not get signed off if it doesn't comply.

 

[driverman]

The whole job sounds like a right balls up to be honest, no planning and no idea of building or electrical regs, back to the drawing board I reckon, rethink the whole project again, Design is as important as the actual work being carried out.

Ok, why is it a balls up. It's a one off job. I'd like to do it as best as i can, hence why i'm asking here. As you can see there are always different ways of doing things. i didn't want a load of electrical accessories outside the en suite doors as they would be on full view from the bedroom.

 

[not clever]

How is it lazy? The idea behind it is for maintenance.

What is the point in having one at all if your not going to have one local to the fan?

fair point and yes I wasn't thinking of online units.............i am however thinking of another cider and I'd be happy to buy you one spankey
for having intimated your lazy.

 

[not clever]

oooops predictive text.......didnt mean spankey at all sorry

 

[shanky887614]

fair point and yes I wasn't thinking of online units.............i am however thinking of another cider and I'd be happy to buy you one spankey
for having intimated your lazy.

It depends on the fan doesnt it, if its a standard ceiling fan it goes above door, if its an inline fan it usually goes local to it unless customer wants it above door. Im happy with either

 

[driverman]

ok moving on, what about TV wall sockets. you guys mount them no higher than 1200mm or can i say if higher they are there for that purpose only?

 

[Guest77]

Hi 2nd attempt writing this! As some of know wiring new house for family member. After great discussion / debate on another thread re those damn extractor fans with timers etc. I've decided to go with wall mounted 1g light switch outside each en suite (customers request as doesn't like pull switches) and the 3 pole isolation switch at low level 450mm as opposed to high level or above the door. Will that comply with BS7671 Regs? I'm going to use a fan whereby the manufacture will not insist on a 3amp fuse.
I'd already chopped in a deep box for a shaver point in 1 en suite at face height when the penny dropped that I had in fact installed it too high. I have now installed it at no higher than 1200mm. I take it height restrictions includes shaver points also.
Now for wall mounted TV points. Many wall mounted TV points to be installed, like a damn hotel! I've installed the boxes so as no higher than 1200mm. I would like to mount them a bit higher really so as to hide the boxes behind the wall mounted TV when installed. Your thoughts,experience appreciated.

What are you planning on fitting if no timers out of interest?
That will be an eye sore, better to wire the bathrooms so the triple poles can be positioned elsewhere if thats the case
haven't you got a regs book?
Ridiculous, the cables will show unless you fit the tvs at 4 ft from the floor, why does the socket and tv points need to be fitted at that height then?

 

[topquark]

If it's inline I still put ISO above door. I put 3A DP FCU next to fan in loft....best of both worlds. Fuse in dual box above door if wall mounted. Coz we all know how annoying it is when fan's running an ya wanna sleep!

 

[Plonker 3]

Here you go I am feeling in a good mood tonight, read pages 48 and 49

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_AD_M_2010.pdf

 

[Guest77]

Regarding the TVs, a single socket at 6ft unswitched fed from a switch spur at a level between 450-1200 would be fine, as mentioned earlier it is all about Design.

 

[Plonker 3]

Regarding the TVs, a single socket at 6ft unswitched fed from a switch spur at a level between 450-1200 would be fine, as mentioned earlier it is all about Design.

Part M will allow sockets at higher if needed for a particular appliance so no need for the spur IMO.

 

[Guest77]

Aye very true, I only mentioned it because the OP seems to be very keen on everything between 450-1200

 

[driverman]

MDJ thanks for reply. My concerns about TV points came about on my own house with building inspector when I did an extension. He inspected first fix before dot dab plaster board installed and was amazed to see metal capping used through out. Anyhow he pulled me up because i had installed TV skt too high. I said I would put a sw /spur point at low level to switch skt on/off. Possible building inspector was wrong to say that, but I had go with his thoughts as i didn't know otherwise. I am an electrician but been out of the game for many yrs but recently taking a keen interest in the trade again. Hence not up to date with many regs, especially building regs.
Looking at others houses though, I'vr noticed many electricians putting skts bhind Tv's but no higher than 1200mm