Flex for fixed wiring

[charlie76]

Would you suggest flex for fixed wiring on an EICR is a C3? The client has basically run flex from one socket to a surface socket (i.e. a glorified extension lead). However I would say this is fixed wiring.

What does 521.9.1 mean where it states "only where the the relevant provisions of the regulations are met"? Does this mean CCC, installation method, overload protection etc.

 

[GeorgeCooke]

Because many refer to them wrongly does not make it right.

 

[DPG]

Because many refer to them wrongly does not make it right.

It is not wrong, although I agree it isn't used much these days. I suggest you read some old books on electrical engineering, installation, etc. It is the full name for a plug. It never meant the top cover of a plug!

 

[DPG]

A quick Google check shows that at least Farnell, Tool Station and Amazon still refer to them as plug top, amongst others.

Don't know why I'm banging on about it really, I wouldn't have said anything if you hadn't criticised someone for using correct terminology originally.

 

[Dave OCD]

I fitted literally dozens of plug tops in the 1st year of my apprenticeship, all MK and they had 'Hospital Property' embossed on the cover in red, didn't stop one or two going missing over the years though.

 

[DPG]

Just fitted an MK plug top (complete with proper knurled screw terminal tops) to a 1970s ghetto blaster. Lovely quality. The plug and the radio!

 

[Dave OCD]

Do you remember the old MK fused spurs with flex outlets Daz ? They had the same type of screws as the plug tops on the load terminals.

 

[DPG]

It rings a bell. I've got a couple of old ones in the garage - I'll see what sort they are at the weekend. They're 1970s ones so could be.

 

[7029 dave]

I give up? Was that in a Christmas cracker or something?

Have a check on Google - you will see they were orignally (and still are by many) referred to as plug tops.

I do still call them IT. Times have changed DPG, for the bloody worse.!!

 

[7029 dave]

Do you remember the old MK fused spurs with flex outlets Daz ? They had the same type of screws as the plug tops on the load terminals.

I remember.

 

[Dave OCD]

Took out an old cooker hood on the way home today, the owner has bought a new fancier one in the sales and wants to sort out the tiling before I fit the new one. Not only was the hood [and chimney]tiled up to and grouted in but wired direct into a socket with 1mm 2 core flex- apparently done by a kitchen fitter....

 

[GeorgeCooke]

It is not wrong, although I agree it isn't used much these days. I suggest you read some old books on electrical engineering, installation, etc. It is the full name for a plug. It never meant the top cover of a plug!

It WAS the full name for a plug because a socket WAS called a plug. We have moved on now and those old terms are no longer appropriate or correct.

 

[GeorgeCooke]

A quick Google check shows that at least Farnell, Tool Station and Amazon still refer to them as plug top, amongst others.

But because the technical writers in those companies are idiots it does not mean that we have to be.

 

[DPG]

Blimey, you feel very strongly about this don't you - so anyone who uses the word 'plugtop' is an idiot. Right, fair enough.

 

[davesparks]

If it is a plugtop what is it on top of?

It is on top of a plug, many years ago sockets were called plugs, and what we now call plugs were called plug tops.
I think the terminology changed when bs1363 came along

 

[GeorgeCooke]

It is on top of a plug, many years ago sockets were called plugs, and what we now call plugs were called plug tops.
I think the terminology changed when bs1363 came along

I know that. That is why I wrote above:

"It WAS the full name for a plug because a socket WAS called a plug. We have moved on now and those old terms are no longer appropriate or correct."

People need to move into the 21st century.