For the h&s bods

[tommy.dale]

Evening chaps hope everyone is well,

my firm at the moment are going health and safety mad (more than usual) and as they have just put me through the sssts course there asking (testing) me on some new initiatives that I could try to implement towards working better increasing work keeping moral etc, I've come up with a few regarding a separate near miss register where by who ever promotes the most every 3 months gets a bonus etc, our main client is BP Oil so they are massively in favour of this but I was wondering if anyone has any good Ideas that I could try a snatch any feedback is welcome!

Tom

 

[FrankUK]

Went to a Carillion site last week to do a day's commissioning and during the site induction they introduced a 'Don't Walk on By' scheme.

Everyone gets to carry a couple of these cards which you fill in and drop into a box whenever you are in the vicinity of the cabins. Basically, anything you see that you consider to be a hazard, unsafe working practice, unsafe scaffold, rubbish not being cleared up etc etc, you just write it on the card and some jobsworth from one of the cabins goes out to investigate.

During the day I saw a couple of things, but being old school, they didn't seem too overly hazardous to me compared with some of the things I've had to endure on sites over the years, and I managed to drive off site in good health, so I binned the cards.

In my opinion, H & S can sometimes just be practical with a bit of common sense, but that's not allowed anymore. If it was, most of the 'Jobsworth's' would be out of work :wink_smile:

 

[SirKit Breaker]

Have you got a '5 S' system in place. if not then implement it. A place for everything, and everything in its place. look it up on the internet, that will get you some real brownie points and keep people busy for weeks.

Cheers.............Howard

 

[telectrix]

and as it's associated with BP, if there's yanks involved, make sure the yanks carry the can when they cockup.

 

[shanky887614]

The problem is mate we only rarely get one incident every other month so the guys are doing there jobs properly (some just dont get caught) that is a good idea though bud

i got lucky the other month, the site's health and safety guy was taking pictures off the mess in the plantroom, i was 3m above him lying on the tray covered in swa cables, got lucky.

 

[leep82]

For the h&s bods

We do quotes a lot of work on a site where a near miss scheme is in place. The problem we find as outside contractors is that the site staff whether it be production or maintenance are all to happy to report any little issue and I mean anything! But if a contractor reports anything very little seems to be done. This just leads to a bad relationship between the two. Common sense should always prevail.

 

[Adam W]

Encouraging people to report when they've had a near miss sounds like a dangerous idea to me - you might find everyone suddenly starts nearly having accidents.
I'd go for a 5S scheme as well - everyone is responsible for tidying a different area for 15 minutes or so every day; a tidy workplace is a safe workplace.

 

[Knobhead]

Before I retired our company introduced “hazard spotting” (with a cash prize) I developed it in to a sport. How many times could I “get” another shift manager.
Ordering the MD off site until he got rid of the HiVis jerkin was funny (A fire hazard where molten iron is handled). Or finding the most expensive thing I could.
I won the monthly prize, only to be told it’s a great idea, but it will cost £1000’s to implement, it somehow got put to one side, as did my prize. (The bit that really pee’d me off, I didn’t put it forward for any gain. The plant manager put it forward on my behalf without telling me).

The down side, I had to have a squeaky clean bum, the hit squad was after me


BTW if you contract to BP they want you to play their game, otherwise they take their bat and ball home. They make money by twisting suppliers arms to hire BP safety (male bovine excrement) consultants. It’s been going on for the last 20 years I know of. Along with them massaging their accident statistics.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Before I retired our company introduced “hazard spotting” (with a cash prize) I developed it in to a sport. How many times could I “get” another shift manager.
Ordering the MD off site until he got rid of the HiVis jerkin was funny (A fire hazard where molten iron is handled). Or finding the most expensive thing I could.
I won the monthly prize, only to be told it’s a great idea, but it will cost £1000’s to implement, it somehow got put to one side, as did my prize. (The bit that really pee’d me off, I didn’t put it forward for any gain. The plant manager put it forward on my behalf without telling me).

The down side, I had to have a squeaky clean bum, the hit squad was after me


BTW if you contract to BP they want you to play their game, otherwise they take their bat and ball home. They make money by twisting suppliers arms to hire BP safety (male bovine excrement) consultants. It’s been going on for the last 20 years I know of. Along with them massaging their accident statistics.

blame n claim culture...

 

[Sintra]

This near miss nonsense is just to keep these H&S bods in a job. It's just for them to be able to do monthly or yearly stats as they need to show that for every minor incident there were x number of near misses.

 

[Engineer54]

I doubt if there is a productive H&S influenced site in the whole of the UK. It's all got completely out of hand in the UK. Overseas projects won't touch UK H&S officers, ...they actually want to finish the project they started!! lol!!

 

[Richard Burns]

Some companies can supply a H&S poster series so that you can have different advice up at various times, makes it more noticeable. humorous ones sometimes help, but BP were not really keen.

Have something put in the company rules that allows private reporting so that there is no comeback on lower staff reporting managers! (never work)

H&S issues to be open book at each team meeting so there is always a chance to discuss.

Refresher training to be in place at regular intervals, tool box talk type approach.

Get more staff trained in safety inductions for outside contractors so that the safety issue is always at the forefront.

The near miss reporting is always popular, because it looks good. and the idea is that more is better, though in a totally safe company their would be no near misses, which always seems to be missed.

Have local boards that give the stats for near misses vs accidents by department so that departments can be aiming to top the chart on near misses and bottom the chart on accidents, or at least beat other departments.

Have personal managerial response to thank for major near miss reporting and also provide feedback on the action and resolution.

Small percentage bonus for lower level staff based on the accident rate.

 

[Engineer54]

Some companies can supply a H&S poster series so that you can have different advice up at various times, makes it more noticeable. humorous ones sometimes help, but BP were not really keen.

Have something put in the company rules that allows private reporting so that there is no comeback on lower staff reporting managers! (never work)

H&S issues to be open book at each team meeting so there is always a chance to discuss.

Refresher training to be in place at regular intervals, tool box talk type approach.

Get more staff trained in safety inductions for outside contractors so that the safety issue is always at the forefront.

The near miss reporting is always popular, because it looks good. and the idea is that more is better, though in a totally safe company their would be no near misses, which always seems to be missed.

Have local boards that give the stats for near misses vs accidents by department so that departments can be aiming to top the chart on near misses and bottom the chart on accidents, or at least beat other departments.

Have personal managerial response to thank for major near miss reporting and also provide feedback on the action and resolution.

Small percentage bonus for lower level staff based on the accident rate.

No wonder UK projects go over budget and never finish on time!! lol!!

 

[bigbaddave]

Re: For the h&s bods

Our ppe policy at the moment is,
anti static boots
hat
glasses
gloves
vis
pain in the arse in the summer!!!

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Glenn someone got the sack last year for smoking next to a dispenser I kid you not lol!!!

jobs worth.. whats wrong with that ??

 

[shanky887614]

Before I retired our company introduced “hazard spotting” (with a cash prize) I developed it in to a sport. How many times could I “get” another shift manager.
Ordering the MD off site until he got rid of the HiVis jerkin was funny (A fire hazard where molten iron is handled). Or finding the most expensive thing I could.
I won the monthly prize, only to be told it’s a great idea, but it will cost £1000’s to implement, it somehow got put to one side, as did my prize. (The bit that really pee’d me off, I didn’t put it forward for any gain. The plant manager put it forward on my behalf without telling me).

The down side, I had to have a squeaky clean bum, the hit squad was after me


BTW if you contract to BP they want you to play their game, otherwise they take their bat and ball home. They make money by twisting suppliers arms to hire BP safety (male bovine excrement) consultants. It’s been going on for the last 20 years I know of. Along with them massaging their accident statistics.

one of the current sites is good.

induction 5mins. then the usual hardhat,hi vis+boots

once inducted no one cares and were if you like.

hard hats are usually left with your toolbags.

not a single podium on site as there practical and can use laders and if we really need them scaffolds

 

[trev]

I dropped my hammer today and it landed on my steel toecap, was that a near miss that would have to be recorded?