Fox Hunting

[trev]

My last post was made in jest Trev, I don't really want to see it legalised.

We have to be careful though as often pressure groups will use bans like this to press forward with other forms of hunting. A clear distinction has to be made between cruelty to animals and hunting for purpose.

I very much want to retain my right to shoot and eat rabbit and pigeon without fear of getting my head kicked in by a bunch of balaclava wearing thugs masquerading as animal rights activists!

I don't really have a problem with you hunting with a gun Damian and as far as I'm aware that isn't illegal. I'm guessing you're a good enough shot to get a clean kill with a minimum of suffering for the animal. One second it's awake, aware and enjoying it's life, the next second it isn't.

 

[shanky887614]

My last post was made in jest Trev, I don't really want to see it legalised.

We have to be careful though as often pressure groups will use bans like this to press forward with other forms of hunting. A clear distinction has to be made between cruelty to animals and hunting for purpose.

I very much want to retain my right to shoot and eat rabbit and pigeon without fear of getting my head kicked in by a bunch of balaclava wearing thugs masquerading as animal rights activists!

that reminds me of the anti-whalers.

most countries sent in the coastguard.

the russians sent in the kgb special forces lol

 

[Octopus]

As far as I'm aware hunting an animal with dogs is illegal so I'm not sure what you mean by that but the second part of your post is ridiculous

So why does it still happen the whole country wide?? Sure they are supposed to be following a "scent trail" but if the dogs come upon a fox then the dogs do their stuff.

If Tonyt Blair had really wanted to ban hunting with dogs he would have banned people going out in groups, all dressed up with hounds.... but he didn't

 

[D Skelton]

One bunch of clowns that regularly make me laugh are the live animal export protestors! Ok in time gone by the conditions in those trucks was pretty poor indeed but nowadays the amount of legislation in place surrounding live animal exports makes them pretty darn comfortable!

The temperature of transportation units has to be within given values, the amount of space per animal is tightly controlled, the amount and type of food for the animals on their journeys has to comply with a gazillion different EU directives. Did you know for example that European Commission animal welfare laws concerning the air quality and temperature on transportation units far exceeds the statutory standards set down for passengers on the London Underground! We literally have less rights on our trains than animals do on their journey to be killed! Lol! Yet people still protest!

Barmy if you ask me!

 

[trev]

Imo if they're out and about with their dogs and a fox gets ripped apart then there should be prosecutions, if they're out for a run on a drag hunt where a rag soaked in fox wee leaves a trail and no animal is harmed then where is the crime?
For your idea to work you'd have to ban X amount of people from riding X amount of horses accompanied by X amount of dogs.
The minute the government starts to stick it's nose into people's business to this extent is the day we have a Big Brother style state.
Oh, hang on a minute.

 

[D Skelton]

I don't really have a problem with you hunting with a gun Damian and as far as I'm aware that isn't illegal. I'm guessing you're a good enough shot to get a clean kill with a minimum of suffering for the animal. One second it's awake, aware and enjoying it's life, the next second it isn't.

Yes, the purpose of shooting rabbit and pigeon is clear. It's pest control. The farmer benefits because his crops are preserved, we as consumers benefit from cheaper produce and I benefit because I get to eat tasty rabbit stew! Three birds killed with one stone, or cartridge even

This though is far removed from hunting a fox for fun with dogs that upon capture will rip it limb from limb for no purpose other than for some toff to have a blow on his horn.

We as reasoned and logical people can see the distinction between the two, however many people can't!

 

[Leesparkykent]

One bunch of clowns that regularly make me laugh are the live animal export protestors! Ok in time gone by the conditions in those trucks was pretty poor indeed but nowadays the amount of legislation in place surrounding live animal exports makes them pretty darn comfortable!

The temperature of transportation units has to be within given values, the amount of space per animal is tightly controlled, the amount and type of food for the animals on their journeys has to comply with a gazillion different EU directives. Did you know for example that European Commission animal welfare laws concerning the air quality and temperature on transportation units far exceeds the statutory standards set down for passengers on the London Underground! We literally have less rights on our trains than animals do on their journey to be killed! Lol! Yet people still protest!

Barmy if you ask me!

Live exports suspended after 45 sheep deaths at Ramsgate | News ...
www.farmersguardian.com/...exports...sheep-deaths...ramsgate/49739.articl...
18 Sep 2012 - Were the sheep slaughtered at the port the same animals for which the ... I've been a hgv 1 driver for over 40 years and the way some of these ...

 

[D Skelton]

Live exports suspended after 45 sheep deaths at Ramsgate | News ...
www.farmersguardian.com/...exports...sheep-deaths...ramsgate/49739.articl...
18 Sep 2012 - Were the sheep slaughtered at the port the same animals for which the ... I've been a hgv 1 driver for over 40 years and the way some of these ...

And the two drivers and French export company were prosecuted for failing to meet EU directives, and rightly so! It was one bad apple.

 

[Leesparkykent]

And the two drivers and French export company were prosecuted for failing to meet EU directives, and rightly so! It was one bad apple.

The live export campaigners are constantly blocking the trucks at ramsgate port near me, some of them are complete nutters laying in the road and that sort of thing lol.

 

[rapparee]

Badgers are pests they cause cattle to get tb and quite recently one attacked a fella as he wandered home from a night out. It came out of the ditch and attacked him, breaking his ankle. He currently is laid up at home with plates and pins in his ankle.

Hunt badgers instead

 

[telectrix]

whatever happened to the age-old custom of hunting totty?

 

[telectrix]

just thought i'd take the thread off topic as trev is too slow and geordie's probably sleeping.

 

[trev]

just thought i'd take the thread off topic as trev is too slow and geordie's probably sleeping.

Sorry mate, lots on my mind and I can't really focus on my normal job.

 

[Silly Sausage]

whatever happened to the age-old custom of hunting totty?

I've got two of these beer mats which occupy the top two places of my two beer mat collection.

 

[Fin170]

I've shot, fished, ferreted etc as long as I can remember and for just as long as I've lived on the principle of no suffering/ clean shots only etc. As far as I can see fox hunting with dogs is not compatible with that belief and I have no desire to see rid of the ban....that and I'm sure there are more pressing matters that should be being sorted in parliament