FP Cable Is Not Always Suitable

[Guest77]

what would this tool be called from a wholesaler? Its size f (didn't realise the size was 16mm pots)

im after a 20mm crimping pliers but cant find there name I know there made by bicc pyrotenax though

When I sort out your pyro today I will see if I have a pot crimper I can put in the box, can't promise but it may happen :willy_nilly:

 

[shanky887614]

When I sort out your pyro today I will see if I have a pot crimper I can put in the box, can't promise but it may happen :willy_nilly:

thank you but don't worry about it neweys stock the pot crimpers,

 

[LeeH]

I've only made an end of twice. Once at college and once in my AM2.

If I was asked to make one off tomorrow I'd probably cock it up.

 

[varilite]

Fp 200 good substitute for t&e much nicer to work with. I'd wire houses with it if it wasn't so expensive

 

[fuel]

As pyro has now ben taken out the AM2 exam shortly there will be no one who is skilled enough to do it now

Is it taught at college at all then?

Had to make off a few practice ends and make off two for the unit 305 practical exam.

 

[shanky887614]

Had to make off a few practice ends and make off two for the unit 305 practical exam.

that was your colleges choice, I didnt touch it at all in mine. was shown a pic of it and shown some compound and that was about it.

ill be making some ends of myself quite soon and later on might have to at work so it will be good practice

 

[fuel]

Had to make off a few practice ends and make off two for the unit 305 practical exam.

that was your colleges choice, I didnt touch it at all in mine. was shown a pic of it and shown some compound and that was about it.

ill be making some ends of myself quite soon and later on might have to at work so it will be good practice

For the 305 practical, We were given a diagram to wire up using different sorts of cables, so for example from the board to a 1 way light switch in twin, and then from the board to fused spur in pyro, board to socket in SY flex etc. The cables were set buy City and Guilds. Dont have the sheet anymore or i'd post a photo. Had to do it for the exam.

 

[shanky887614]

For the 305 practical, We were given a diagram to wire up using different sorts of cables, so for example from the board to a 1 way light switch in twin, and then from the board to fused spur in pyro, board to socket in SY flex etc. The cables were set buy City and Guilds. Dont have the sheet anymore or i'd post a photo. Had to do it for the exam.

how long ago was this?

when I did my level 3 in college there was 0 install. only thing we did was testing.

used twin and a little bit of singles. swa twice that was in level 2

2330 I meant.

sorry didnt read tye pyro bit.

colleges dont usually even have any onsite now.

spoke to cef today about some crimping pliers and they were telling me the last pair he sold was over 10 years ago.

 

[dragon-av]

We have a pyro "bucket" at work (all the odds and sods from the bottom of peoples tool boxes), its been used once in 2 years where we had to joint into an existing Pyro install and extend in FP200. I had to get one of the time served guys to do it, he hadn't done one for 15 years...... still used in chemical plants and other high risk industries....

 

[shanky887614]

We have a pyro "bucket" at work (all the odds and sods from the bottom of peoples tool boxes), its been used once in 2 years where we had to joint into an existing Pyro install and extend in FP200. I had to get one of the time served guys to do it, he hadn't done one for 15 years...... still used in chemical plants and other high risk industries....

cef could only get normal corkscrew type for 35+vat.

neweys advertise same one for 24inc +vat on site

sorry but for what it is £42 takes the biscuit.

 

[Simonslimline]

For the 305 practical, We were given a diagram to wire up using different sorts of cables, so for example from the board to a 1 way light switch in twin, and then from the board to fused spur in pyro, board to socket in SY flex etc. The cables were set buy City and Guilds. Dont have the sheet anymore or i'd post a photo. Had to do it for the exam.

Same at my college. We had to use Pyro, swa, FP200, SY, Twin, Cat5, singles, and various different flex.

I think it is important to be shown how to terminate pyro. Every apprentice should be taught imo.

 

[dragon-av]

Same at my college. We had to use Pyro, swa, FP200, SY, Twin, Cat5, singles, and various different flex.

I think it is important to be shown how to terminate pyro. Every apprentice should be taught imo.

Cat5 really? Krones or plugs?

 

[davesparks]

We have a pyro "bucket" at work (all the odds and sods from the bottom of peoples tool boxes), its been used once in 2 years where we had to joint into an existing Pyro install and extend in FP200. I had to get one of the time served guys to do it, he hadn't done one for 15 years...... still used in chemical plants and other high risk industries....

Why would you extend pyro with fp200? Seems a bit daft to me.

I was taught that you should always extend cables/wiring systems with the same or better cable, not to extend them with a lesser system.
For example you extend steel conduit with steel conduit or you extend MI with MI.

 

[Simonslimline]

Cat5 really? Krones or plugs?

Just made off in to a data point witha punch tool.

 

[DRG]

Why would you extend pyro with fp200? Seems a bit daft to me.

I was taught that you should always extend cables/wiring systems with the same or better cable, not to extend them with a lesser system.
For example you extend steel conduit with steel conduit or you extend MI with MI.

I was taught the same way mate as many others will as its good practice. I had a conversation with a guy from Cormeton once who was commissioning a fire alarm system that had been extended from pyro to fp and he said ut can cause problems. Cant remember the reason he gave I think it was on an adressable system so may have been something to do with the systems knows which way accessories or set at or something along those lines. (Im not mega clued up on the technical side of fire alarms)