fp200

[pcam1984]

Hi guys, does anyone know if you can get brown fp200, if so any ideas where. Thanks

 

[fuel]

shame they don't teach it anymore ....

Made a good few ends off in tech a few months ago. Had to make off two ends for a first year exam too. Had to do it to pass.

I have been able to get FP 200 in black.

Seen it too, might be as close as you will get

 

[Simonslimline]

Made a good few ends off in tech a few months ago. Had to make off two ends for a first year exam too. Had to do it to pass.

Same here, we had to use it in our practical unit at college.

 

[rapparee]

Made a good few ends off in tech a few months ago. Had to make off two ends for a first year exam too.

that was the one and only time i've ever done it and a couple of fella's, went bang when they energised the circuit, and they all still passed, the instructor told us it was practically obselete and didn't matter, this was 7 years ago

 

[Guest77]

that was the one and only time i've ever done it and a couple of fella's, went bang when they energised the circuit, and they all still passed, the instructor told us it was practically obselete and didn't matter, this was 7 years ago

Another ----er

 

[Dcf]

depending if it has to be fp200 what about hi tuff ?that comes in black.
can remember micc in black or grey sheath on a few church lighting jobs.
the problem with assuming all micc is now obsolete is the jobs already installed in micc!
there must be 1000s of km of the stuff installed in this country alone.
is it all to be ripped out because they don't teach how to install it anymore?
i think i might set my self up as an micc "specialist" and just go around making off ends for those who don't have the skills

 

[tazz]

We have been down this route with many a post....micc will not be obsolete until an equivalent matching cable can manufactured.

 

[rapparee]

We have been down this route with many a post....micc will not be obsolete until an equivalent matching cable can manufactured.

i'm not saying if it is or isn't just an anecdote from first year tech

 

[tazz]

I think MDJ sumed up the word which best describes you lecture.

 

[dingledong]

Don't need a joistripper Stanley knife and wire cutters
ahh those were the days

 

[fuel]

Made a good few ends off in tech a few months ago. Had to make off two ends for a first year exam too.

that was the one and only time i've ever done it and a couple of fella's, went bang when they energised the circuit, and they all still passed, the instructor told us it was practically obselete and didn't matter, this was 7 years ago

Was told the same. "Ahh, this should be a one off, it will be very unlikley you will have to work with it nowadays" Load of crap.

 

[pcam1984]

Sorry guys not had a chance to get back on, i am currently rewiring a public hall and the consultant has asked for fp200 to wire external lighting. He has today asked us to source brown cable (with 10 days left!!!). I would love to do it in pyro and suggested this but his reason for not doing it is that there are not enough sparks experienced with it and 5/10 years down the line is worried that not enough people will know how to work with it! This is the main reason pyro is being used less and less, it is supposedly not cost effective as it takes longer than putting fp in a stuffing gland! If they had an effective way round swa that would be next!

 

[2391bob]

Is this a listed building?.... you may have to confirm your wiring methods and from experience if its exposed stone work and a cable has to run along it like in a chapel or church then bare MICC is usually the only acceptable method... shame they don't teach it anymore .... if listed don't choose the easy option without confirming you can or you may end up removing it all at your own cost!

I worked on an old silk mill 1832 listed and English Heritage insisted on unsheathed pyro,lucky I'm the pyro king,had to run it with the brickwork mortar ie not straight,anathaema,to how I was taught.

 

[Darkwood]

Made a good few ends off in tech a few months ago. Had to make off two ends for a first year exam too. Had to do it to pass.



Seen it too, might be as close as you will get

I stand corrected then it was dropped for many yrs they must have realised its importance in the field we had a decade of newly qualified sparkies that turned down work because they never learnt it ...not their fault but it gives a big reality check about those Electricians who never learnt it as its still a type of wiring system... its a kin to been a painter and saying any colour your choose but can't do red!

 

[telectrix]

Sorry guys not had a chance to get back on, i am currently rewiring a public hall and the consultant has asked for fp200 to wire external lighting. He has today asked us to source brown cable (with 10 days left!!!). I would love to do it in pyro and suggested this but his reason for not doing it is that there are not enough sparks experienced with it and 5/10 years down the line is worried that not enough people will know how to work with it! This is the main reason pyro is being used less and less, it is supposedly not cost effective as it takes longer than putting fp in a stuffing gland! If they had an effective way round swa that would be next!

tell the donkey ( sorry, consultant ) that prperly installed MICC will last 50/60 years, not a paltry 5/10. he'll be dead when it fails, so it won't be his problem.