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As for high power systems I wouldn't be at all comfortable using one to keep myself cozy whilst my 84 year old neighbors struggle to keep one room warm.

But surely you would be able to make one for your friends/neighbours also - they would gladly pay for it if it did indeed provide them with free energy.
 
So if you take A as the start point x it by the star point of C then add the water ( which has to be cleaned first so it runs quickly) do you then have to add H-Q to get the right orientation to allow for P to act as a momentum enhancer to allow for the fact that at some point you need to add blue dye to make the water more blue ( thus allowing for dispersion of said blue dye within the power producing sauce).
If we take a look at D.T’s thinking on this subject we will find that A+the star point of C+H-Q will give as a answer of,

wait for it


A1

Do I win the competition
Or should I just get my coat
 
we had water powered cars over 100 years ago. they were steam engined.
afraid thats not water power (as well you know) very inefficient use of fossil fuels !
If you'd like to research water powered cars and the silenced researchers try these few - just off the cuff .I have already posted that there was a museum which demonstrated water cars and engines I was quickly to discover this technology has been done not once or twice but hundreds of times . As far as most researchers were concerned the Public execution of Stan Meyer signified the 'end of the line' As I think I pointed out before society it probably about to get what it deserves.
Stan made this short news clip
this skit on that clip tells the story of Stan's fate
regardless if you wish to seriously research water fracture I regard the following as a small credible list to start you off although there are many many more.
Ruggero Santilli
Anrija putarich
Charles Pogue
Henry Garrett
Bob Boyce
John Nunnerley
kind regards Duncan
 
But not 100mph spaceship style ones that make a zing noise as they shoot past you, whilst Alexa drives and you sit there supping your beer.
Only 'cos we stopped developing them... Steam is still the best way to launch aircraft from aircraft carriers !
 
But surely you would be able to make one for your friends/neighbours also - they would gladly pay for it if it did indeed provide them with free energy.
It just doesn't pan out like that DPG , As things stand if you (or anyone else for that matter) wants free energy then your going to have to learn about it and then make it yourself. many of these researchers have done exactly what I have described . some have been 'bought off' some murdered (as exampled above) most have been threatened or had their patents 'ringed' . one researcher I worked with recently had his son Mark hit and run , (turned into a vegatable) and was then asked if he 'wanted more treatment regarding his wife' No thats not my game DPG as I say its just an interesting hobby. - thats all. when society is altered to such a point that researchers can openly develop these systems thats a different matter. It will also be a very different world.
 
delighted to answer
Hi Intoelectrics the speed of light is a constant (not a maximum) this information comes from various researchers working in different fields of radio/wireless . (which I did myself at one point.) The radio system we use in this day and age is according to my understanding essentially that developed by Marconi in an effort to circumnavigate some 17 of Nikola Tesla's wireless patents.
The present system is essentially parallel tuned into a resonant antenna , propagation is mostly via transverse wave via the ionosphere with a very small % ground wave, the assumed speed of propagation of the electromagnetic wave is the speed of light.
Tesla's wireless system however used series resonance and was tuned to a resonant ground antenna. propagation is mostly via the longitudinal wave via the ground plain. with a very small ionospheric % transfer. the speed of transmission is pi/2 x speed of light. Transmission being via the electrostatic wave
FYI here is that that transmission system described and demonstrated many years ago now by Eric Dollard although it been substantiated many times by different researchers .
faster than light
kind regards Duncan

I agree, in that the speed of light is a constant not a limit. However for all intent purposes it is a limit since information cannot be transferred faster than light else it would violate causality.

There are a number of effects that appear to be travelling faster than light:- the expansion of the universe at the far observable reaches where galaxies are accelerating apart the distance between them is increasing faster than the light can propagate. In quantum mechanics sub atomic particle pairs can be separated by large distances and once the spin of one particle is observed you know instantly what the spin of the other particle is. This effect is commonly known as "spooky action at a distance". But in both scenarios any useful information cannot be transferred faster than light so therefore causality is not violated.
 
If it is proven technology, and you yourself have made it work, then I still don't understand why you don't use it to power your home. If you are concerned about your 80 year old neighbour, then Give her the money you have saved on your fuel bills.
 
I agree, in that the speed of light is a constant not a limit. However for all intent purposes it is a limit since information cannot be transferred faster than light else it would violate causality.

There are a number of effects that appear to be travelling faster than light:- the expansion of the universe at the far observable reaches where galaxies are accelerating apart the distance between them is increasing faster than the light can propagate. In quantum mechanics sub atomic particle pairs can be separated by large distances and once the spin of one particle is observed you know instantly what the spin of the other particle is. This effect is commonly known as "spooky action at a distance". But in both scenarios any useful information cannot be transferred faster than light so therefore causality is not violated.

There is much we do not understand about the universe

The galaxies themselves are not accelerating in my opinion they are stationary however the space time grid which the galaxies are fixed to is increasing in size thus the 2 galaxies are moving apart .

Is space some kind of quantum grid ?

Does time exist without an observer ?

Does anything exist without an observer ?

Is the quantum grid dark matter ?

Is the whole thing a simulation ?
 
There is much we do not understand about the universe

The galaxies themselves are not accelerating in my opinion they are stationary however the space time grid which the galaxies are fixed to is increasing in size thus the 2 galaxies are moving apart .

Is space some kind of quantum grid ?

Does time exist without an observer ?

Does anything exist without an observer ?

Is the quantum grid dark matter ?

Is the whole thing a simulation ?
Your opening statement is very true.

Your idea of stationary galaxies pinned to an increasing space time grid is pretty much the mainstream model but from a different perspective. Either way the galaxies are "moving" apart due to space increasing between them. The apparent "acceleration" is due to the observation that the further away galaxies are the faster apart they are travelling, or as per your model the greater the space is increasing between them. which ever way you want to look at it the effects are the same - galaxies are moving apart very quickly and some distant ones faster than light.
 
When I have time, i will read through this thread but straight away I see many errors, false claims, baseless conspiracy and gross misinterpretation of science, what it suggests and how to take on board that information.

You use a classic method to shore up your mindset here similar to how religious people would claim that because science cannot as of yet explain what came before the big bang then it could only be the result of intelligent interaction i.e. a God, now although this example is not what you are claiming, you are using the same approach to justify your beliefs, in fact Tesla's work and finding are well understood, nothing has been lost or buried and to the contrary we now have a better understanding of the physics of his discoveries than he could ever possibly imagine.
Like before in a previous thread, I find it almost surprising that you choose a forum of mainly career minded people who have a better understanding of electrical theory and physics to aim what I can only comprehend as your somewhat deluded ideas... now do not get me wrong here, some of your content actually does have some foundation but that in itself does not make everything else you claim to be correct- it is the most common conspiracy theorist failure, the fact they may actually latch on to something that turns out to be true so they apply this result to the other 99% of there claims... it is called cognitive dissonance.
 
The amazing thing about EM waves is they propagate via an energy transfer / oscillation between 2 states , electrostatic - like a build up of voltage ,and electro-magnetic -like a build up of current . There is plenty of space between atoms for them to wiggle - plenty of un-found mass exists in the universe - it is this that probably interacts with EM waves in a vacuum .
(So maybe an "either"does exist)
The only area that comes close to supporting faster than light speed interactions is Quantum Entanglement.
I'm sure Nikola Tesla's "Electro-static" beliefs were convenient for Patent purposes.
A persuasive argument MAY have got round them then -NOT NOW-.
There is no conspiracy -Just poor / aged / past its sell by date science.
(Anyone who knows a bit of electronics understands where the energy goes when you connect a charged capacitor across a suitably sized coil of wire. ) ..
The physics required to recover lost EM waves may have lead to negative comments about people who are concerned about "radiation" needing to build personal faraday cages.
 
sorry to be off thread for a while folks, some containment beckoned - (Basketeering.)
Glad to see some interest in the subject of 'free' clean energy as exemplified by The Trompe.. I hope it is very apparent to all readers that free clean engineer-able alternatives are available - and have been as Mollison tells us intentionally and aggressively suppressed. It applies to other energy systems too obviously .
There are some I'm sad to see who are rather more concerned with what I might be doing personally with free energy . I'll tell you now if my home were powered by exotic means I certainly wouldn't admit it on open forum.
Personal Faraday cages ? I could certainly see some advantage regarding EM noise which makes some folks very ill, however a Faraday cage has absolutely no effect on the longitudinal wave - It passes straight through any cage or box.
why post such information on an electricians forum ? Its an electrical effect although I guess at first glance a 'free energy forum' might seem more appropriate - It isn't the forums have been infiltrated and a deal of the members and management are in the pay of the cartels . There is evidence that the forums themselves are started and are run by 'big oil' Here the connection is indelibly made. It is obviously with the intention of dis-information and obfuscation and is a very effective control .

free energy Hi Jacked

jackhammer what a list of questions . such as have confused far better minds than mine . luckily I don't really have to consider each examples in depth only note well that there is a viable alternative and so what is taken as hard and fast 'laws' certainly are not. As is quite rightly noted there's a huge amount we don't know which is why some of these machines can and do work .

endothermic electrical energy

I have re- transmitted a wireless station on a longitudinal wave and received the station on a radio inside a closed dustbin . so much for the Faraday cage.
deluded ? perhaps we all have been and its only a case of - to what extent
 
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There is evidence that the forums themselves are started and are run by 'big oil'
I'm sure this forum has its own origins , "spreading " training , developing on from Tiling / Plumbing + other trades @Dan
Helping beginners into the trade ! (and a Pub to relax in)
..Some electronics know how does help in understanding weird stray capacitance effects..
 
Oh I'm quite sure this forum is 'as presented' Its rather forums dedicated to 'overunity' and free energy which have been hi jacked as the provided link makes clear .
The idea is to keep folks dumbed down regarding alternate energy . and yes it is a very good idea to read and watch the information provided before commenting. (whoever observed that)
 
So now you feel you have 'debunked' the Faraday Cage theory with your dustbin experiment? I suspect you may need to do some more in depth experimenting on that one.

You sort of side stepped my point about why people who discover this free energy never seem to use it themselves for various reasons. In fact, you and others with very similar ideas and styles of writing avoid most decent points put forward by the old favourites of being physically attacked by BP et al. or that there was evidence, but it has been redacted by whoever.
 

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