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Your thoughts please people on what notification the following system would fall under:

16 x Sanyo HIT250 panels and SMA Sunnyboy 4000TL inverter.

G83-1 or G83-2?

It's a survey inquiry to date but the client has done his own design online. I know all there is on bonding and RCD's etc so please no need to post about that.

Many thanks
 
16*250*96.4 % = 3856

Gotta be GB83/1-1 Stage 2 whichever way you try to swing it.

UNLESS the DNO has already agreed in the past to using the software limit of the 4000TL to limit it to 3680 (installer mode) then you could get away with G83/1-1 Stage 1

If not agreed in the past, then same work on your part as G83/1-1 Stage 2.
 
Or Diehl Ako 4300S for the same reason...
 
My thoughts exactly....G83/1-1 stage 2. Potential client thinks he knows best which caused me to doubt myself.

I would prefer to use the Diehl if I get my way over any TL to be honest.

Thanks all
 
Most clients are only aware of the 4kWp tariff change which they usually interpret as 'The maximum for a house' (equally not true we have a 100kWp domestic installation - don't ask!) and arent aware of the G83/1-1 3.68kVA limit, (just have to educate them politely) :)
 
16*250*96.4 % = 3856

Hate to be a pedant, but that sum is DNO specific, our DNO will not accept it. SSE take the lowest of the panels output or the inverter AC current rating.

Mark C - The sunny 4000tl is a great bit of kit, we've seen it produce an extra KWH per day compared to a Dielh Plat 3800 on a similar setup. You can even use a SB3300 on 16 Sanyo 250w - doing an install on Thursday.
 
Mark C - The sunny 4000tl is a great bit of kit, we've seen it produce an extra KWH per day compared to a Dielh Plat 3800 on a similar setup. You can even use a SB3300 on 16 Sanyo 250w - doing an install on Thursday.

Is that going to be G83-1 or G83-2?
 
Hate to be a pedant, but that sum is DNO specific, our DNO will not accept it. SSE take the lowest of the panels output or the inverter AC current rating.

Mark C - The sunny 4000tl is a great bit of kit, we've seen it produce an extra KWH per day compared to a Dielh Plat 3800 on a similar setup. You can even use a SB3300 on 16 Sanyo 250w - doing an install on Thursday.

I don't do TL inverters due to the bonding etc, just see it as more work, time and money for very little increase. I'm sure the time will come but for now I prefer transformered inverters.

Yes the mentioned inverters do work with the Sanyo 250 x 16. We've used the 3800, 4300 and SB3300 on all those and they all work well. Weight of the Diehl range is my only gripe.
 
Dielhs also hum as well as the rediculous weight, I find it very annoying.

Sorry you will have to speak up I can't hear you over the inverter!

With the Diehl range you'll push your luck on the loft ladder. But I will have to agree they are not the quietest kit around.

fitted one of our first Sunnyboy HF's this week. First of three in a row. I have to say SMA have it sussed. Lots of nice add on's like SD slot for data and built in blue tooth. Very nice.
 
I almost exclusively fit SMA 3000HF and 4000TL inverters.
I always install then notify under G83-1 after the install. I put the output at 16A and Short circuit at 16A and I've had no problems.

The earthing of the array frame was a bit odd at first but now it's second nature, we can sink an earth pit, fit a rod and test it in no time. We run a 10mm earth by the same route as the DC cables and sing the earth near the house. We use a 10mm SDS bit 1m long to drill through all the rough stuff including random foundations and building debris tap in an earth rod the first meter down the drilled hole then bash it as far as we can the rest of the way. We do an earth loop test from the extension lead, nice and easy less than 100ohms from the extension lead. If no cigar then we drill at a different angle and sink another in the same hole and link the two together and test. We carry a spade, sand and cement and a trowel in a trug in the van, takes about an hour to make a really tidy job.

Once you've got this sorted then you can sell the more efficient twin MPP 4000TL inverter with gay abandon, dual pitch arrays no problem, the 4000TL handles different sized strings really well too so 10 panels here and 6 over there is no problem.

Make the leap, it's worth it, only down side is the 4000TL requires fiddling around with an allen key to get the cover off!!!
 

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