Gas and water bond.

[eckersecker]

House I'm working on has water and gas bonded on same 10 mm green and yellow cable. It loops from the water to the gas. Is this acceptable or a code 3?

 

[Geordie Spark]

i thought they used a knotted rope.

Yes, but only in Scouseland.

Rope doesn't have much scrap value.

 

[Des 56]

That's not a sausage ye silly sausage ..................... it's a thing wot tells the pilot how high he's flying his aeroplane.

So what tells him he is flying too low,is it that scraping noise on the fuselage or all the vegetation on the windscreen

 

[Geordie Spark]

So what tells him he is flying too low,is it that scraping noise on the fuselage or all the vegetation on the windscreen

Neither.

He knows he's too low when the Pikeys and Scousers are nicking his wheels.

 

[micknew]

House I'm working on has water and gas bonded on same 10 mm green and yellow cable. It loops from the water to the gas. Is this acceptable or a code 3?

Surely this should have been posted in the DIY section?

 

[Geordie Spark]

Surely this should have been posted in the DIY section?

The whole damn' forum is like a DIY section nowadays.

 

[micknew]

All you have to do is state qualification and code numbers and you will get answers whether your qualified or not.
DIYers paradise.

 

[Geordie Spark]

All you have to do is state qualification and code numbers and you will get answers whether your qualified or not.
DIYers paradise.

It doesn't matter to me ....... I'm only here for the beer.

 

[kingeri]

Even if it was not a continuous length, I wouldn't code it on an existing installation. It's best practice to loop, but if the connections are sound and it's been in for years, then I don't see it as codeable. Just my take on it. There is no reg saying it must be one continuous length......

I am prepared to be ripped apart for that!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

It all depends,if its a continuous piece and is unbroken from end to end then its fine, if it has been cut to loop from the gas to water then it isn't.that's assuming you're not testing on behalf of BG in which case it's a fail either way lol.
I'm not kidding either,when I did some subcontract for BG I had a few that had been failed for one cable bonding both gas and water,it seems they make up their own rules to grab more cash.

i looked at someones condition report that we had got hold of not too long back...
and amongst other made up rubbish was this as well.....
the author of that report had seen fit to award bonding both gas & water using the same conductor as a 1...
ok, it was broken at the first point....but the worst you could give it was a 3...for this reason alone...
i might not have even awarded it a code....just note it and move on...

 

[D Skelton]

House I'm working on has water and gas bonded on same 10 mm green and yellow cable. It loops from the water to the gas. Is this acceptable or a code 3?

If you have to be asking these kind of questions then in my opinion you are not yet competent enough to be carrying out EICRs (assuming that's what you're doing). My advice would be to get yourself a copy of BS7671 and GN3 and enroll on the 2382, the 2394 and the 2395.

For the record, one cable bonding multiple extraneous conductive parts is perfectly acceptable whether it is broken or un-broken in my opinion. Some may argue however that as soon as the bonding conductor becomes broken, it ceases to become a main equipotential bonding conductor and instead the link then between two or more extraneous conductive parts becomes a supplementary bonding conductor.

The call to make as to whether or not the installation is safe for continued use is soley down to the inspector, an inspector who should have a fundamental understanding of both electrical theory and regulation in order to be able to make an informed and reasoned decision based upon his extensive knowledge and experience.

My question to you:- What do you think? And are you comfortable enough to rely on your extensive knowledge and experience to back up your decision against all those who may question it?

 

[Engineer54]

And every working day, there are more of these fast track/backdoor boys being churned out and officially registered as being competent by the very same organisations that were put in place, to put a stop to incompetents playing around in peoples homes!!!

It was a damned sight safer in the domestic sector, before these training centres and Part Pee providers got a toe hold in our profession, and that's a Fact!!

 

[Geordie Spark]

If you have to be asking these kind of questions then in my opinion you are not yet competent enough to be carrying out EICRs (assuming that's what you're doing). My advice would be to get yourself a copy of BS7671 and GN3 and enroll on the 2382, the 2394 and the 2395.

For the record, one cable bonding multiple extraneous conductive parts is perfectly acceptable whether it is broken or un-broken in my opinion. Some may argue however that as soon as the bonding conductor becomes broken, it ceases to become a main equipotential bonding conductor and instead the link then between two or more extraneous conductive parts becomes a supplementary bonding conductor.

The call to make as to whether or not the installation is safe for continued use is soley down to the inspector, an inspector who should have a fundamental understanding of both electrical theory and regulation in order to be able to make an informed and reasoned decision based upon his extensive knowledge and experience.

My question to you:- What do you think? And are you comfortable enough to rely on your extensive knowledge and experience to back up your decision against all those who may question it?

The rough translation of this is: Pack it in bonny lad and get a job at ASDA.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

The rough translation of this is: Pack it in bonny lad and get a job at ASDA.

theres an art to stacking produce you know..
all labels facing front like.....

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And every working day, there are more of these fast track/backdoor boys being churned out and officially registered as being competent by the very same organisations that were put in place, to put a stop to incompetents playing around in peoples homes!!!

It was a damned sight safer in the domestic sector, before these training centres and Part Pee providers got a toe hold in our profession, and that's a Fact!!

well....
you know my views on all this eng...

 

[Geordie Spark]

theres an art to stacking produce you know..
all labels facing front like.....

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well....
you know my views on all this eng...

We ALL do Glen ............... every one of us!! :rolleyes4::tongue3: