German Market Lorry Incident

[Barry White]

If the question people ask about terrorism is how they won't ever stop it and will just live in fear.
The question should be why and what can be done to repair the damage thats been done to cause people to feel these acts are justified.
You can't ever stop people who belive in a cause they are prepared to die for.

Agree but don't invite them into your home or country and feed them.
There are many more incidents in germany that have been covered up for political reasons.

 

[Pat H]

If we applied that globally we'd be saying don't be kind in case it comes back to bote you.
What sort of a world would we have/or will we have if we stop kindness and consideration for the plight of others?

May as well stop food banks as I'm sure some who use them aren't starving.

 

[Darkwood]

Don't forget here, in a sense we brought this on ourselves, the rise of ISIS is down to our own and American foreign policy and the Iraq war in which we created a void that birthed ISIS with a envy of the west, hate what is happening all you want but we are only reaping what we sowed here, this is what happens when you brown nose America and get pulled
into a war under a false flag just so they can maintain world economic dominance with the Petrodollar been the currency of choice for oil trade.

We need to blame the governments of the day for the attrocities we now see on our own soil, yes it has always happened in Islamic states as the main Muslims factions fight each other but we dipped our toe into something bigger than all our nations and that is an Ideology ... this will not be something that will go away anytime soon as we are still active and interfering in the likes of Syria etc.

The Chilcot report exposes alot and shows we should have never been there in the first place yet Blair is still walking around smiling while his legacy is murdering innocent people in European countries.

 

[Barry White]

The sort of world we have is the kind that's biting the hand that feeds it. My family come first to me I wouldn't risk their life's to save one refugee.

 

[Barry White]

Agree with Darkwood getting rid of Sadam was a big mistake yes he indiscriminately waved his big stick of fear at his people and they were rightly scared. It kept all the factions underground and in some sort of harmony to live together. Now without the big stick they do as they like.

 

[Darkwood]

The biggest Irony here is and to any outsider reading about this the fact that Tony Blair became the Middle East Peace Envoy ... seriously you couldn't make it up if you tried

It's like letting the rapist counsel the rape victim

 

[buzzlightyear]

this what's happens when let the jinnee out of the bottle.

 

[Octopus]

I know this will irritate many people BUT at the least people in Germany, who live there, or arrive as migrants HAVE to be registered with the Police AND carry ID cards.... many European countries have ID cards

I would have no problem having one - so if the UK Government want to introduce one, bring it on....

 

[7029 dave]

Agree with Darkwood getting rid of Sadam was a big mistake yes he indiscriminately waved his big stick of fear at his people and they were rightly scared. It kept all the factions underground and in some sort of harmony to live together. Now without the big stick they do as they like.

He did keep the dogs at bay.

 

[Wilko]

Sorry to say, but respect for living creatures is not high in the world, and that has far reaching consequences in every walk

 

[EoinConway]

Don't forget here, in a sense we brought this on ourselves, the rise of ISIS is down to our own and American foreign policy and the Iraq war in which we created a void that birthed ISIS with a envy of the west, hate what is happening all you want but we are only reaping what we sowed here, this is what happens when you brown nose America and get pulled
into a war under a false flag just so they can maintain world economic dominance with the Petrodollar been the currency of choice for oil trade.

We need to blame the governments of the day for the attrocities we now see on our own soil, yes it has always happened in Islamic states as the main Muslims factions fight each other but we dipped our toe into something bigger than all our nations and that is an Ideology ... this will not be something that will go away anytime soon as we are still active and interfering in the likes of Syria etc.

The Chilcot report exposes alot and shows we should have never been there in the first place yet Blair is still walking around smiling while his legacy is murdering innocent people in European countries.

Darkwood, what in your opinion, would you say plays more of a role in the rise of ISIS; us 'bringing it on ourselves' or the Quran?

 

[Marvo]

The Quran has been around for centuries, the Islamic linked terrorist attacks have only been prolific for the last few years....

 

[EoinConway]

The Quran has been around for centuries, the Islamic linked terrorist attacks have only been prolific for the last few years....

So would you say it and it's content has nothing to do with it Marvo? Would you agree with Darkwood that the West brought this on themselves?

I'm not meaning to be antagonistic, just interested as it had not been mentioned in the thread until that point.

 

[Pete999]

Darkwood, what in your opinion, would you say plays more of a role in the rise of ISIS; us 'bringing it on ourselves' or the Quran?

If I can jump in, to answer your question George Bush both of em and of course Tony B sorry Darkwood over to you.

 

[EoinConway]

If I can jump in, to answer your question George Bush both of em and of course Tony B sorry Darkwood over to you.

They must have been taking Kenny Everett seriously Peter, imagine.