German Wiring , is it superior /?

[Dustydazzler]

So , like most things the Germans are generally considered the top of the class...Making Cars , engineering , Construction and so on...

What do we think of this new domestic install??

 

[Julie.]

Nein

und fünfundzwanzig Zeichen.

 

[nicebutdim]

I'd like to know why he writes everything twice - ink doesn't grow on trees!

Also unimpressed by the conduit installation - surely this can be representative of German standards? No bending, slip bends or adapters and everything cut short.

 

[Julie.]

I actually quite like his videos, he does some good electronics stuff, which is a bit of an interest for me , and he is quite entertaining.

 

[nicebutdim]

No criticism of the guy in the video, but his method of writing seems rather laborious.

As for the conduit installation - is that really how Germans do it?

 

[Risteard]

I'd like to know why he writes everything twice - ink doesn't grow on trees!

Also unimpressed by the conduit installation - surely this can be representative of German standards? No bending, slip bends or adapters and everything cut short.

My understanding is that is the norm in Germany and Austria, and probably much of continental Europe.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Flex run in conduit like that is pretty standard across most of Europe , they never use elbows or sets. The conduit is just straight bits

 

[Risteard]

Flex run in conduit like that is pretty standard across most of Europe , they never use elbows or sets. The conduit is just straight bits

They were using NYM-J as opposed to flex. NYM is very common throughout Europe actually, including in the south of Ireland.

 

[nicebutdim]

Not what I would have expected of Germany.

 

[lozarus]

Certainly my experience as a regular visitor to Germany is indeed, conduit is straight only, no elbows, glands etc. Generally just pushed into adaptable boxes. Metal fixings etc I don't think are talked about. Not sure what the word is on RCDs . At my Girlfriends old flat lights sockets etc shared breakers. Not sure if thag was just her iffy landlord though. But as the appliances don't have fuses then there's no reason the couldn't be. Everything was wired in 1.5 in her flat, sockets and lights. Their round NYY is definitely a world above t&e to work with though.

 

[brianmoooore]

I'd like to know why he writes everything twice - ink doesn't grow on trees!

I always write everything twice on cables. Once where most would write it, and once a bit further back the cable. Useful when you find the labelling on the cable you're looking at is actually on the bit of cable sheath you cut off and threw in the bin.

 

[Lucien Nunes]

Think of the conduit just as a means of supporting cable neatly as an alternative to a line of cleats. It's solid-core sheathed NYM-J, used throughout Europe instead of T+E; it doesn't generally need the conduit for protection in domestic work. Obviously where conduit is needed due to the environment, it is continuous with elbows etc.

Re lights and sockets on the same circuit, this is common in many countries, we are one of the few that doesn't. Historically we sometimes had 2A / 5A sockets and lights sharing circuits but the coming of the 13A socket and 32A ring stopped that.

As for whether German wiring is better, each system has its merits. I prefer many aspects, E.g. I would much rather wire Schuko sockets with NYM than 13A sockets with T+E. But the UK 32A circuit is a very good and versatile idea that you can't mix with unfused plugs. So you can't have all the best features in one system.

 

[nicebutdim]

I always write everything twice on cables. Once where most would write it, and once a bit further back the cable. Useful when you find the labelling on the cable you're looking at is actually on the bit of cable sheath you cut off and threw in the bin.

Good practice, but not what I was getting at. He over-wrote everything on the plans he drew. Every single word as it was written, he went over a second time - an obsessive perfectionist.

 

[nicebutdim]

Think of the conduit just as a means of supporting cable neatly as an alternative to a line of cleats. It's solid-core sheathed NYM-J, used throughout Europe instead of T+E; it doesn't generally need the conduit for protection in domestic work. Obviously where conduit is needed due to the environment, it is continuous with elbows etc.

This is the information I was looking for - thank you.

 

[Julie.]

Good practice, but not what I was getting at. He over-wrote everything on the plans he drew. Every single word as it was written, he went over a second time - an obsessive perfectionist.

I think it's more to do with getting the message across/teaching.

The more times you repeat or go over things the more likely the viewer will remember or understand.