Get What u Pay For

[eddielarge]

Just a quick post after reading about the super rods.

As electricians we are genrally well paid .

But i read a lot of posts about how you can make an r2 trail lead from singles and save £40 . how we can get cheaper rods at screwfix, cheap programmes for printing electrical certs.
Cheap business cards from vista print

Etc Etc


Surely if you turn up to quote for contracts in battered up estates/vans with makeshift tools and issue poor looking certs . Then surely you send out an image that you dont care and have little pride.

You may be the best electrician around, but image is the 1st impression.

Ok if you are recomended then they will accept you reguardless.

And i know it is a recession so money is tight but sometimes cutting costs if false economy

 

[UNG]

With regard to vans / vehicles there are people who get the wrong impression from new or expensive vehicles

You charge too much!!

Had that one many times

 

[eddielarge]

With regard to vans / vehicles there are people who get the wrong impression from new or expensive vehicles

You charge too much!!

Had that one many times

Yes ive had that one too but normally from customers who want to screw you down on price.

The problem is at the moment work is short and people are under pricing to survive which means they cant earn enough and then have to take short cuts on tools.

MAD MAD CIRCLE.

The good paying clients require an image, clean efficient , sheets down etc

 

[DurhamSparky]

i got made redundant from royal Navy!! i could not afford new fancy van with sign writing, my power tools are B&Q special offer dewalts for £99, i have the R2 wander lead made out of Singles, i dont have a fancy uniform, my tester was second hand also was my PAT machine,

i use CK hand tools, i also have loft ladders for my ladders!

i carry a bed sheet as a dust sheet!


im 25 and i own my own part time business and so far my repeat business and recomends has come from


Politeness and Professionalism and i look smart and IM HONEST!!!!

if you dont need a New fuse box as your 79 and you have an OVERALL RCD i wont fit you one! i will just put some MCB push ins in for you to make you life easier in the event of a trip..!

 

[eddielarge]

i got made redundant from royal Navy!! i could not afford new fancy van with sign writing, my power tools are B&Q special offer dewalts for £99, i have the R2 wander lead made out of Singles, i dont have a fancy uniform, my tester was second hand also was my PAT machine,

i use CK hand tools, i also have loft ladders for my ladders!

i carry a bed sheet as a dust sheet!


im 25 and i own my own part time business and so far my repeat business and recomends has come from


Politeness and Professionalism and i look smart and IM HONEST!!!!

if you dont need a New fuse box as your 79 and you have an OVERALL RCD i wont fit you one! i will just put some MCB push ins in for you to make you life easier in the event of a trip..!

As i said u get what you pay for . and you prices a cheap

i got made redundant from royal Navy!! i could not afford new fancy van with sign writing, my power tools are B&Q special offer dewalts for £99, i have the R2 wander lead made out of Singles, i dont have a fancy uniform, my tester was second hand also was my PAT machine,

i use CK hand tools, i also have loft ladders for my ladders!

i carry a bed sheet as a dust sheet!


im 25 and i own my own part time business and so far my repeat business and recomends has come from


Politeness and Professionalism and i look smart and IM HONEST!!!!

if you dont need a New fuse box as your 79 and you have an OVERALL RCD i wont fit you one! i will just put some MCB push ins in for you to make you life easier in the event of a trip..!

As i said u get what you pay for . and your prices a cheap

 

[DurhamSparky]

"As i said u get what you pay for . and your prices a cheap"

sorry for been the new starter around here, been going since 1st january and its been a steep learning curve as unfortunately i never had the luck of pricing jobs in the Navy as budget was not a problem..!

so what your basically saying is because my price are cheap i must be doing a shoddy job!!



sorry we not all singing and dancing electrical company like your self that has never under quoted and would never dream of setting foot in a house were you would get less than £30 an hour !!! By the way your attitude to all things other than your self is quite frankly shocking!

"Msg to Mods" please don't edit my reply i would like to burst EDDIE'S ego Bubble even if it means i get BANNED for life / duration"

 

[eddielarge]

Hi steve

a very strong thread, Maybe you should calm down alittle.

Its called banter, but probably comes across wrong, as for swearing in the message, maybe you should re think that ,

LETS CALM DOWN AND GET BACK TO HELPING EACH OTHER.

 

[DurhamSparky]

Hi steve

a very strong thread, Maybe you should calm down alittle.

Its called banter, but probably comes across wrong, as for swearing in the message, maybe you should re think that ,

LETS CALM DOWN AND GET BACK TO HELPING EACH OTHER.

me calm down!! i think u really need to have alittle chat with yourself on what constitutes banter and know were the line is drawn as you drove straight through the fence with your snide remark..! what you insinuated from YOUR post is that if you get what you pay for then made a direct quote to my charging scheme..! from the outside in that reads STEVE is A LEGITIMATE COWBOY!! so if i was to hike my prices by 300% over night i would become the best quality electrical firm in the area..! that's what your getting at!

i got banned from the other forum as i was employed in Military Trade and i was correcting long serving civilian/domestic sparks on the regs and they did not like it and launched a triad of abuse and comments at me to which i replied honestly to them...!! unfortunately a few home truths upset them and there tight nit community and my account was terminated..!

if i wanted to get such abuse like you sent i would go to screw fix and ply my trade there..!

if i get banned from this forum then i get banned but im not retracting comments or apologising, i will let the mods decide my fate, but as for helping people i will continue to do that until the above is decided..!

 

[eddielarge]

me calm down!! i think u really need to have alittle chat with yourself on what constitutes banter and know were the line is drawn as you drove straight through the fence with your snide remark..! what you insinuated from YOUR post is that if you get what you pay for then made a direct quote to my charging scheme..! from the outside in that reads STEVE is A LEGITIMATE COWBOY!! so if i was to hike my prices by 300% over night i would become the best quality electrical firm in the area..! that's what your getting at!

i got banned from the other forum as i was employed in Military Trade and i was correcting long serving civilian/domestic sparks on the regs and they did not like it and launched a triad of abuse and comments at me to which i replied honestly to them...!! unfortunately a few home truths upset them and there tight nit community and my account was terminated..!

if i wanted to get such abuse like you sent i would go to screw fix and ply my trade there..!

if i get banned from this forum then i get banned but im not retracting comments or apologising, i will let the mods decide my fate, but as for helping people i will continue to do that until the above is decided..![/QUOTE



The post was set up to make a point that maybe if we aimed higher we would get better clients with money.
I have just learned from experience that the bigger companies that i do work for like a better image for their clients,

This maybe wrong and it shouldnt matter what you look like if u do a good job.

But unfortuneatly the richer clients are willing to pay extra for better materials, and insist on MK etc.

where as you install cheaper boards (as stated by you the other day).

It does not mean that your board is any worse , but you went for it to save the customer money.

I too try and save all my clients money , but there are people out there that wont squabble on price because they know they will get the best,

 

[DurhamSparky]

i install equipment constructed and tested to BS/IEC standards..!!

and as quoted other day i always give a product 1 chance to satisfy my criteria if i was to use it again!

and if you also read into my post i have used Hager and MK as well....

unfortunately most of my customers have not been rich and to get the job YES i may use a cheaper alternatives and im happy doing that as i can maintain a margain that i require to keep business paying the bills andi also can sleep knowing that MRS Jones from no.23 will still be alive tomorrow as she never got the Horse riding, caravan pulling folk to do same job for cheaper..!

and asfor what you look like, no it should not matter.

i turn up on time, im clean shaven, clothes are clean and pressed, my car is washed and clean, my tools are organised and i wear over shoe covers..!!! first impressions count. techincal ability just reinforces the first!

im not in a position to take on large contracts and / or work for large companies. biggest i have dealings with is local housing association who have entrusted my services a few times. the rest have been small scale domestic and medium sized comercial PAT testing in large office blocks..

 

[eddielarge]

i install equipment constructed and tested to BS/IEC standards..!!

and as quoted other day i always give a product 1 chance to satisfy my criteria if i was to use it again!

and if you also read into my post i have used Hager and MK as well....

unfortunately most of my customers have not been rich and to get the job YES i may use a cheaper alternatives and im happy doing that as i can maintain a margain that i require to keep business paying the bills andi also can sleep knowing that MRS Jones from no.23 will still be alive tomorrow as she never got the Horse riding, caravan pulling folk to do same job for cheaper..!

and asfor what you look like, no it should not matter.

i turn up on time, im clean shaven, clothes are clean and pressed, my car is washed and clean, my tools are organised and i wear over shoe covers..!!! first impressions count. techincal ability just reinforces the first!

im not in a position to take on large contracts and / or work for large companies. biggest i have dealings with is local housing association who have entrusted my services a few times. the rest have been small scale domestic and medium sized comercial PAT testing in large office blocks..

I agree,,,, i didnt say that u didnt use Mk i just said that you may have customers that want the cheapest option and that you help them out by providing cheaper boards.

I do jobs for as little as £25.00 because mrs jones cant afford more.

what i was saying is that we all should aim for bigger fish.

That may take time. but its where i want to go

 

[UNG]

But unfortuneatly the richer clients are willing to pay extra for better materials, and insist on MK etc.

I too try and save all my clients money , but there are people out there that wont squabble on price because they know they will get the best,

I normally find it's the richer clients that are the penny pinchers they want Rolls Royce kit at Trabant prices

Solicitors are the worst in my experience was ripped off a few times because they know you won't take them to court when they make a payment far less than invoice value in full and final settlement, having been told how to deal with them by a retired court official I don't have any problems working for them now

You will only ever rip a client off once if you want the repeat business you have to do a good job for a fair price

 

[ezzzekiel]

who banned durham? all valid points (although a tad over the top) and i need to pm him for Nvq3 stuff darn

 

[Mr Mark Sparks]

earlier today he used some language in a post that has been removed he seemed to be daring the mods to ban him also

 

[ezzzekiel]

ah dont suppose any1 got a msn for him then