Grade A LD2 fire alarm advise

[No1bacon]

No it is not a requirement, Grade A requires automatic detection in circulation / escape routes and rooms of high risk along with a control panel.

I'm gonna go with the Fike twinflex, multisesor heads and leave the call points. I've done my risk assessment and cant see as it warrants call points.

 

[No1bacon]

I believe so yes.

Can only think they wasn't required to put in Grade A then. To me that's grade D LD2.

 

[telectrix]

think if you pshed it, you'd be able to fit mains interlinked detectors. no control panel. that'd bloody overkill.

 

[westward10]

No detection must comply with BS5839:1 for a Grade A LD2 system.

 

[No1bacon]

think if you pshed it, you'd be able to fit mains interlinked detectors. no control panel. that'd bloody overkill.

Going by the letter from council that's kind of what they say, then they throw a curv ball by writing grade A. If you go by 5839 part1 and 6 and look at the property, then it's grade A. Someone else has said install grade D to the bedrooms, lounge and kitchen and grade A to landings etc, to me that would be for self contained flats. Thinking of just subbing the alarm out and doing the board and emg lighting myself, lot less hassle.

 

[Leesparkykent]

How many floors is the property? Around my way HMO's require manual call points. I've never had a drama with customers saying they didn't want them...you need a panel, emergency lighting etc so they don't really look out of place imo.

 

[westward10]

Not uncommon for the separate dwellings to have Part 6 detection also. Is the kitchen communal because that is high risk and should form part of the Grade A system. Don't forget to allow for a zone plan this is a requirement of BS5839:1

 

[No1bacon]

3 floors with the loft conversion bedroom. I agree with you bud, the landlord don't live there so she won't see it from here house.

 

[No1bacon]

Not uncommon for the separate dwellings to have Part 6 detection also. Is the kitchen communal because that is high risk and should form part of the Grade A system. Don't forget to allow for a zone plan this is a requirement of BS5839:1

Yeah communal kitchen is include that as part of the grade A on the panel system. Yeah I've got that on my to do. I maintained the fire alarm and sprinkler system at John Lewis distribution centre for 18 month, that was less hassle then this.

 

[bigspark17]

That councill letter is asking for interlinked smoke alarms why on earth are you installing a fire alarm???

 

[Leesparkykent]

There is different requirements if the property had 3 floors so can't get away with aico's etc.

 

[buzzlightyear]

since the Grenfell tower fire most land lords have to step up to the plate .
regarding the property you are working is HMO and fire panel is in order .having read
that letter from the council to you client .you need to read carefully.
e.g. fire doors .

 

[westward10]

That councill letter is asking for interlinked smoke alarms why on earth are you installing a fire alarm???

Because it asks for a Grade A LD2 system a hybrid of the Part 1 and 6 systems. High time this was restricted to Part 1 systems.

 

[No1bacon]

That councill letter is asking for interlinked smoke alarms why on earth are you installing a fire alarm???

Because a Grade A says it requires a central panel.